The OFFICIAL "I intend on Quitting, and here is why" Thread

[SNK]

You worry about how other people gear up their chars? Who gives a crap, gear your own to the MAX and mind your business? As long as they don't tell you you're gear choices are wrong and them wearing a pink fluffy party hat has no impact on you wtf does it actually have to do with you. Stop trying to live in the past, almost everyone else moved past that way of thinking.

Wow did I ever hit a nerve. If you're gonna to be a miss happy pants I might as well indulge this amazing rage of a post. Mind you it didn't take much digging but it was in reply to this post Concerned made.

Originally Posted by Concerned4FFxi
About two months ago, I leveled ninja and when I went to get the weapon skill quest from the NPC i was given the first of many af1 quests for that job and NPC. Now for ninja, absolutely none of the af1 is needed in today's 90+ so I'm pretty miffed about having to do them all just to flag the weapon skill quest, just to process weakness in Abyssea (and also for my own satisfaction of knowing I have all quested weapon skills). Yea the body af1 is ok, but theres much better options available to me (like the af3+2 body for starters). Now this is not like the af1 thf boots or anything remotely close.

Now I certainly wasn't the only one who caught the bolded part but NIN AF3 Body is 100% in no way better then the original AF Body for NIN in a tp/haste build peroid.

I commented on this very calmly thus with this..

Originally Posted by SNK A little offtopic here but I'm going to seriously have to disagree with some of this. 1st off the original AF1 body is still the best TP body piece for NIN hands down. A full 5% reduced on both of your weapons is something the AF3 Body isn't going to give you. The AF3 Body is a pretty solid WS piece but using it for a TP piece it painfully silly.

To which I was givin a reply like this....

All af1 body does is let you hit a little faster, but with af3+2 4/5 and ocelot's, you notice the extra hits from the set bonus and the af3+2 body is far superior on damage per hit. Add to the fact that af3+2 body augments migawari, which is far more important than a slight increase in your attack speed, and you can see how while af1+1 body is nice, its not my personal choice.

So yeah, you tp in your af1+1 and when you get hit with an AOE Damage+DOT attack from that HNM your tanking and your non-augmented migawari doesn't save you and you die, I'll have enough life left from migawari/af3+2 body augment to recast utsusemi and survive the DOT/or the stray hit after the AOE and before I can recast utsusemi, long enough for the Whm to cure me to full. Because remember, that -5% on your delay is more important than augmenting migawari, better damage per hit, +5 critical hit rate, and the peice going towards the set bonus from af3+2. That's silly, right?

Now of course someone beat me to the punch on this but I think this more then hammers down the confusion of stupid I was forced to read.

I do believe it has been tested and mathed out that tping in Ninja Chainmail is superior to the set effect from Iga +2, not that I can be bothered to try to dig up the posts about it right now. To get the full effect from AF3 +2, which is 10%, you need to wear the FULL set, meaning you aren't even capping haste AND you've lost the 5% reduction in delay from Ninja Chainmail.

If you don't make a migawari macro which includes equipping Iga Ningi +1 or +2, you're doing it wrong. Swap back to Ninja Chainmail once migawari wears.

Actually - please do tell me what kind of AOE spell/move can 1shot or nearly 1shot a nin without migawari, because I can only think of self destruct and I don't know a single hnm which does that... So I would really like to know which HNM you are talking about in the above quote. Migawari is in my opinion a great spell for moves you KNOW will otherwise 1shot you. Oh and btw, migawari without Iga Ningi +1 or +2 will still save you from being 1shot.

With Ninja Chainmail and capped haste, you reach 100tp faster than with 4/5 AF3 +2 and ocelot gloves. Which means you ws more often. Which means stuff dies faster.

And to round off: "the af3+2 body is far superior on damage per hit" - what exactly is that supposed to mean?? We are talking a piece of armour here, not a weapon.

Confused never once replied and thus led me to believe he/she was too.... stupid to think of an answer to this?

Go to BG and enjoy the confused player thread, should keep you there all day if that's so important to you.

If you're a player who advocates people playing their jobs retardedly then more power to you but, If you're going to sit there and act like you know what you're talking about when multiple people not only have said otherwise, posted math on it and shown proof then yeah, I'm not going to take too much at face value of a stubborn ass McGimp of a player.

I know you've probably got something for him/her but you really don't need to go into a white-knight rage fest over it. Oh and it seems you're under the delusion that everyone has "moved past" that way of thinking when you couldn't be further from the truth. It's ok if you feel otherwise but a lot of players still take this game seriously enough to gear their jobs right and are more then willing to listen to players who have a solid grasp of the game's engine then most people.

If you feel this is in the past then you're obviously not playing the same game a lot of people are.