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    Player Elphy's Avatar
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    I dont log in and play anymore and I havent for some time. I just cruise the boards now and then after an update to see what ppl feel about the new content and if its still worth my holding onto. Honestly I am waiting until the next roadmap before I completely close my account. If they are going to give us another HUGE expansion I will stay to check it out but if its just a few little things I will cancel completely.

    And I LOVE how ppl who havent played xiv since just after beta or havent played it at all like to dog on it. "I will NEVER play another SE title EVER!" Sure ya wont. The fact of the matter is they are spending money on xiv, and alot of it, but not on xi. XIV is suffering from lack of content atm due to them fixing what tanaka broke but come feb in one of the major updates we get every 2 months, the content is going to start coming in and continue to do so until v2. It was even said the first xiv expansion is in developement. Seemings our server has about 1k ppl on it at any given time even tho its a 'fail game' should show how its progressing.

    XI players are so raging against XIV its almost comical. But I bet you no matter how much u rage or deny, you will end up on xiv at some point of time
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elphy View Post
    I dont log in and play anymore and I havent for some time. I just cruise the boards now and then after an update to see what ppl feel about the new content and if its still worth my holding onto. Honestly I am waiting until the next roadmap before I completely close my account. If they are going to give us another HUGE expansion I will stay to check it out but if its just a few little things I will cancel completely.

    And I LOVE how ppl who havent played xiv since just after beta or havent played it at all like to dog on it. "I will NEVER play another SE title EVER!" Sure ya wont. The fact of the matter is they are spending money on xiv, and alot of it, but not on xi. XIV is suffering from lack of content atm due to them fixing what tanaka broke but come feb in one of the major updates we get every 2 months, the content is going to start coming in and continue to do so until v2. It was even said the first xiv expansion is in developement. Seemings our server has about 1k ppl on it at any given time even tho its a 'fail game' should show how its progressing.

    XI players are so raging against XIV its almost comical. But I bet you no matter how much u rage or deny, you will end up on xiv at some point of time
    So, you really think its such a far fetched idea that people are so upset with a company, that they would refuse to pay for anything else from said company?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimble View Post
    So, you really think its such a far fetched idea that people are so upset with a company, that they would refuse to pay for anything else from said company?
    When it comes to gamers.....yes

    All they have to do it wave an exciting title around that gets some positive reviews and ppl will buy it, regardless
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elphy View Post
    When it comes to gamers.....yes

    All they have to do it wave an exciting title around that gets some positive reviews and ppl will buy it, regardless
    Well, the first major hurdle is for FFXIV to get one positive review.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimble View Post
    Well, the first major hurdle is for FFXIV to get one positive review.
    You need to get caught up on the current reviews and discussions before you make that sort of comment ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elphy View Post
    When it comes to gamers.....yes

    All they have to do it wave an exciting title around that gets some positive reviews and ppl will buy it, regardless
    for what it's worth... activision has not gotten 1 penny out of me since modern warfare 2. not ALL gamers are retarded lemmings. some of us DO vote with our dollars, so to speak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elphy View Post
    I dont log in and play anymore and I havent for some time. I just cruise the boards now and then after an update to see what ppl feel about the new content and if its still worth my holding onto. Honestly I am waiting until the next roadmap before I completely close my account. If they are going to give us another HUGE expansion I will stay to check it out but if its just a few little things I will cancel completely.

    And I LOVE how ppl who havent played xiv since just after beta or havent played it at all like to dog on it. "I will NEVER play another SE title EVER!" Sure ya wont. The fact of the matter is they are spending money on xiv, and alot of it, but not on xi. XIV is suffering from lack of content atm due to them fixing what tanaka broke but come feb in one of the major updates we get every 2 months, the content is going to start coming in and continue to do so until v2. It was even said the first xiv expansion is in developement. Seemings our server has about 1k ppl on it at any given time even tho its a 'fail game' should show how its progressing.

    XI players are so raging against XIV its almost comical. But I bet you no matter how much u rage or deny, you will end up on xiv at some point of time
    Well I havent played FFXIV at all and dont dog on it but I feel the exact same way. For example, back in 2005/2006 when the gaming industry was more wide open with football games I really used to love playing and watching the sport as a whole. After the whole exclusive licensing deal with Electronic Arts and the NFL took places effectively eliminating good alternatives of football games beyond just Madden like NFL Gameday and ESPN 2k5 I have yet to buy another Electronic Arts branded titled and pretty much all but stop watching NFL football altogether. Factor in the attempt at Electronic Arts attempted to buy out its prime competitor at the time with Need for Speed in Midnight Club by trying to purchase Take 2 Interactive and it was all she wrote.

    My point being illustrated if you havent cought on to it yet is that despite how good or bad something else is, companies that play to win know that the customer base is key to staying afloat long term. I'm not saying giving us everything we as for per se but we rarely get ANYTHING we ask for EXACTLY how we ask for it is always CONDITIONAL. It is possible for people to like and even love something and stay away or WALK AWAY from just based on how a company conduct itself. We live in an age where companies rather buy the competition than actually be innovative and creative and find new ways to compete. Has nobody been paying attention to real life and the global economic collapse and not noticed it?

    SquareEnix or the executives who represent them are clearly displaying this same level of idiocy. I cant remember the post exactly but I'm sure it is on this forum and if not I think it is on Wikipedia but didnt SquareEnix almost go out of business at one point and was inspired to create this game as a result? seems they want to revisit that experience like they are getting homesick or something. The game and the behavior displayed between us and them on the forums clearly displays what their priorities are and it clearly isnt FFXI or Final Fantasy fans from where I sit.

    Personally I have already quit this game and cancelled this game and WOULD LOVE to see this GAME and COMPANY restored to its former glory but I have GIVEN UP ON SQUAREENIX LIKE THEY HAVE APPARENTLY GIVEN UP ON US !!!! Assuming they every cared in the first place wasnt a total act.

    Reasons for quiting:

    1 NO REAL FREEDOM- I thought the idea of creating your armor was great til i realized your selection of enchanted stuff was so limited. I though hey I could be a mage enchant all ingots, cloths, with whatever offensive, defensive spells I had access to then create it into final form for the best equipment to suit my play style. BOY WAS I WRONG. Even when they tried to improve it with Synergy I was still disappointed. All the mob based boosts is bs as I fight so many different mobs and refuse to clutter up my inventory with 50 different weapons for so many different mobs as well as macro spaces which i already have so many of that I basically slip up and pick the wrong set as is let alone add macros for armor too? No thanks

    2 SOLOING - while partying is nice at times it is also a pain in the ass. Solo I have a higher tolerance for getting hit even as a mage than even most damage dealers can tolerate and being in parties dont always work. Alot of the content makes you heavily dependent on that dynamic that quite frankly isnt always adequate. For Bastok rank misssion 9-2 with all those slimes in Guatav Tunnel that divided. We did a run with an alliance that obvious had ppl that had no clue on what to do and even when we tried to explain the strategy they didnt even listen. so even with the alliance of like 18 we still failed but when kicked the other 12 ppl that were holding us down we got it done with only 6 ppl and only 2 at level 75. While partying is nice most of this stuff can be done with low man parties with good strategy and patience which most ppl rarely have. If SE stop watering down our jobs, weapons and armor and stuff, I'm sure more jobs could probably get more done alone than some can party. Partying should be an OPTION PERIOD EVEN IN A MMO. If you take a look at Dungeon and Dragons online you can totally do the same exact quest solo and there are harder difficulty levels that you clearly will need a party of people for if you CHOOSE to do them but it is a CHOICE.

    3. As mentioned in 2. Weaking jobs instead of making mobs smarter and stronger. Taking away abilities and spells or making them weaker when they are cornerstones of the jobs in question like Enfeebling for Red Mage is bs when they supposed to be the best as a prime example.

    4. Some interface enhancements. - I would love to be able to search an area in the past and see how many have allied tags so I could decide on whether or not to warp to that area or not. Same with besieged which also almost rarely happens like ever. I also heard there was a time wear you could improve your skills in Campaign at one point but apparently I missed that in my 2 years of playing or came just after it stopped.

    5. Im not an idiot- Why keep giving somebody your money, no how small, when they arent giving you the service you feel you deserve? If you bought a car and it blew up and damn near killed you soon as you drove it off the lot, you would have your lawyer on the phone as soon as you could ready to sue the pants of the dealer and manufacturer in a hear beat. While clearly not as serious obviously and no need for litigation why would tolerate this from them regardless if it is a game? It is still your 9 to 5, taxed to hell, already spent before you even get it and lucky to have whatever is left over after all major bills is paid off MONEY. So why should you just accept anything less than what you otherwise expect no matter how long the company has been around?

    Oh and 6. The playerbase themselves but this isnt SE fault directly but some of the way they have developed jobs, and content certainly havent helped it at all. I like to think there is a large player base that get stuff done regardless of what jobs are there even if the jobs arent OPTIMALLY geared or even greatly experienced for that matter but this game doesnt lend to that now does it?
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    Defend it all you want to the damage is done. I won't say its impossable for a game to recover from a bad launch just that its never been done and with SE track record these past few years they won't be the first. Yes I can never "buy" another SE title yet still play the good ones on the used market. That hurts SE and at this point in time they need to be punished. That is how companies learn.

    Also "your server" has 1K players at peak is fact that its not the norm. Other servers barely get 300 to 400 at peaks and are getting merge(its going to be eatten alive in the reviews). It may one day recover the cost but damage has been done and the true cost will not be know for years. Also like I been saying whats to stop them from pulling the same crap with FF14 when its starts to become dated will they milk your MMO to fund another or will they update it. Will they cut the dead weight of a console if it started to hold back the game? Another fact is 1mil people may not bother with FF14 and after the crap they did with FFXI to push out 14 the mass player base migration they had hope for will also not happen.

    While SE might not go under. They will keep merging with other comapnies to get thier hands on titles they haven't burn to the ground to stay a float, oh wait they just did that not long ago. Then their is the the other MMOs that are better then anything SE could dream of producing.
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    That review is from 3 months ago before the true numbers of 14 were known and before SE fially amitted they will have to merge servers.
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    Player Elphy's Avatar
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    As I said I love how ppl who play xi will not admit xiv may have some merit or a future, even if they do not currently or have ever played the game. Its the old ffxi vs WoW thing all over again lol.

    And to top it off if there is a review that speaks of how the game is improving or may have a future its poopoo'd immediately.

    Its just silly
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