The OFFICIAL "I intend on Quitting, and here is why" Thread

[Reyn]

There are a few things left that I want to accomplish - namely, finish WotG. I'm a lore oriented player. I don't much see the point in grinding for gear if the only thing it's going to do is make me stronger for... grinding for even more gear. I want epic storyline battles to use it for, and there really hasn't been much new in the way of lore for a very long time. Once I exhaust that, I don't see myself subscribing any longer.

The job nerfs haven't effected me yet, but seeing them happen is leaving a bad taste in my mouth. The path to 99 should be about becoming stronger, and I don't like that the Dev team's current focus seems to be back-pedaling on everything they've established for the last year. Balance up, not down.

And the ultimate reason: FFXI no longer offers much value for my buck. I don't like paying the same amount for a game now, with these petty updates, as a few years ago when they were actively giving me something substantial to look forward to with every update. As broken as FFXIV is, the amount of positive and exciting changes they deliver with every update is staggering. At least in that case, I know my money is going toward more than just server upkeep and a trickle of cruise control updates.

[mistmonster]

I'll bite too as someone who has never let my subscription lapse and never thought I would quit.

1. VW being where the game is going and the completely STUPID drop system that the devs think nothing is wrong with. I don't mind VW, but the drop system kills it.

2. Stupid payments options that STILL have not been rectified. I am still in limbo unable to make changes to my accounts because I refuse to transfer. I signed up for SWTOR, guess what? I put in my non VBV card and it took it no questions asked. So easy.

3. No more story line to explore, I have almost done every quest/mission.

4. I didn't even know about the nerfs.. shows how much I really been caring lately.

4. Friends are mostly gone for similar reasons.

[Vold]

I'll eventually quit out of principle if things don't change soon. Otherwise I'd just be a fool to not listen to myself preach what I preach. Like for example, lack of content(specifically EXPANSIONS) Why am I still paying full price for a fraction of the content I got 5 years ago? SE seems to think it is acceptable to cut the dev staff down to size to shove people onto 14 or where ever and still charge full price for a game that isn't supported nearly as much as it once was.



WARNING: The rest of this crap is blabbering

See, the standard MMO price of 12 dollars-ish give or take a dollar or two only works for as long as you support the game. Bandwidth isn't as expensive as people want to believe. We could pay 1 dollar a month each and pay for bandwidth costs and SE would still have money left over for a 500 dollar lunch, a new HDTV for break time, and lap dances all around from high class strippers. It's not THAT expensive, kids. Not for SE. I suggest you do some research online to learn how bandwidth pricing works.

I'd be much happier right now if I were paying say 6 or 7 dollars a month for what I'm getting. I'm fine as long as I'm paying for what I'm getting and not for what I should be getting. I've been preaching this for the longest time so that somebody somewhere will wake up to reality and not just be content with cherry picking FFXI income to fund other projects for as long as it lasts in the hopes that I don't have to take action someday. That "someday" is now approaching and it'll probably come after I've had my fill with BST.

I support the FFXI team. I love this game. And I understand the rock and the hard place they have to live in with the PS2 being involved that's not nearly as phased out as we like to think. But not for the base 13 dollars a month I'm paying because higher ups rather milk the game until dry than prolong it to be a constant steady source of income over the years by lowering the price if they insist on keeping the smallest crew ever for a high population pay for MMO(technically our subscriber base is still one of the highest for paid for MMOs)I know the PS2 deal is a pain in the ass, but you either deal with it to ensure future FFXI income or watch as that income dries up sooner than later because people got tired of add ons and reskins and no real expansions to the game that they can explore.

The Japanese are asking for PS3 FFXI. Give it to them and let's move forward instead of backwards. The transition will be a major pain in the ass but dammit it's worth the trouble for future hundreds of millions of dollars over the years. I don't give a damn what's new or old or any of that spin crap. The work of redoing FFXI is worth it in the long run. Frickin period. And the sad part of this is that FFXIV is partly a remake of FFXI. They just didn't know that people grow attached to their work and wouldn't be so willing to throw it away and start anew. We asked for FFXI upgrades. Not FFXIV. Just go back and read/watch the early FFXIV interviews, it's all right there. "people were asking for us to upgrade FFXI but we figured it made more sense to just do a whole new game since it was about the same amount of work" Yeah. How's that working out anyways?

I got tired of searching for the video I remember watching when they said this so this tidbit of a DG FFXIV interview with Tanaka will have to do:

I personally believe FFXI is an example of the best form of MMORPGs, and I feel proud of what FFXI has become over the past 8 years. However, my opinion is not the only one out there, and others have a different idea of what the ideal MMORPG is. FFXIV was the product of what Director Komoto and the others thought would make the ideal MMORPG. The reason we began production was because, after eight years, FFXI’s graphics were beginning to look dated compared to other games. When we thought about recreating FFXI with current technology, we decided instead that we might as well create FFXIV, a whole new game. We figured, if we were going to make a new game, putting the same system in wouldn’t be as fun as a whole new system. We got rid of auto-attack and opted for a command-style battle mode, focused on a battle system where positioning was more important, and tried to make a system with more flowing customization than the job system, along with other changes. On the other hand, we kept some of the ideas present in FFXI, like the linkshell and the play areas divided into regions.

Jeez. Even SE understands my point although they went about things wrong with creating FFXIV to ensure they keep their customers around instead of recreating FFXI. I guess it's okay to do the work if it means pulling in bandwagon customers for a new game but it's not okay to do that work to ensure you keep an already existing customer base. My blabbering is over so thanks for having nothing better to do than read all of this shit. I know how you feel because I typed it.

[Alerith]

Nobody quits FFXI. They always come back.

[Brolic]

Nobody quits FFXI. They always come back.

no, Originalkord is one of my last 3 remaining friends playing ffxi, he quits so will the other 2 most likely. When i quit last time i was quite content staying gone till i started getting harassed on facebook daily to come back.

Besides i got 5000 for my character last time, i wonder what i can get for this one

anyway, I intend to quit because my linkshell leader is

[BitMusic]

no, Originalkord is one of my last 3 remaining friends playing ffxi, he quits so will the other 2 most likely. When i quit last time i was quite content staying gone till i started getting harassed on facebook daily to come back.

Besides i got 5000 for my character last time, i wonder what i can get for this one

anyway, I intend to quit because my linkshell leader is

I've been told good storys of your old apoc drk wish i had got to see it when the server merged happened.

[Ravenmore]

I might quit for good when my crysta runs out if they don't do or anounce something big in the next two months. Mainly fixing VWNM loot system if not then I will gladly laugh my @## off when FF14 falls flat on its face.

[Alerith]

I might quit for good when my crysta runs out if they don't do or anounce something big in the next two months. Mainly fixing VWNM loot system if not then I will gladly laugh my @## off when FF14 falls flat on its face.

I dunno, XIV seems to be turning into something good. Without Tanaka and with Yoshida in charge, things are really looking up. I really don't think this is an SE problem. I think it's a Tanaka problem.

Fire Tanaka! Why? BALANCE!

[Olor]

I dunno, XIV seems to be turning into something good... things are really looking up.

If you like having only 15 TOTAL skills (for mages this includes spells so only like 5 spells) at level cap, then sure, XIV is looking up.

However, I think it sucks... so I would disagree XIV is looking up. The concept art for 2.0 looked nice, but concept art doesn't make a game.

As for me, I'm quitting XI, for at least a short time, to try other games - so I can see if my theory that half the jobs in an MMO don't have to be underpowered and broken is correct.

Reasons:

-Refusal to fix BST: ridiculously expensive jugs, jug-pets that are broken on release (hallo apkullu), refusing to either make charm relevant again or slash the call beast timer, refusing to rework skills that serve no purpose anymore (TAME), failing to address how unbuffed pets cut the total DPS of player+pet in on-level and especially hard encounters, failure to add more options for gear that buffs pets, refusing to make BST USABLE AND USEFUL in voidwatch, leaving BST crap tier for the entire lifespan of the game, etc etc

Failing to reinvest subscription money into the GAME I PLAY: XI should not have a skeleton crew on development. Period. If they are spending more money on XIV, which brings in nothing/next to nothing than on XI, that's wrong, period. My subscription isn't a charity donation to a company that made bad decisions - it is a FEE FOR SERVICE, service which I don't feel I am receiving. Everquest 2 has a smaller paying playerbase than XI and still receives full on expansions including BRAND NEW ZONES (not reskins or battlefields)

[Ravenmore]

FF14 has to much agaisnt it now to ever get a fair shake. Evey review will point to its launch, the extended time it took for them to fix it, then the way they treated FF11 while digging it out. They burn the FF11 base so they can't count on that to fuel it. While it could end up recooping the money spent on it the damage it caused to the name of Final Fantasy is the real cost.