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  1. #41
    Player Damane's Avatar
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    Atm I am considering quitting.

    Reasons:

    1. The absurd relic/mythic trial that was brought up on the testserver. Dont understand me wrong, I did my relic back then at lvl 75 (4 years) now, when Dynamis was shit. I like challenges, but that Trial is just absurd and for the fact, people get older, I really dont ahve anymore the time to commit myself to such a game like back then. The motivation is down, because one never can really complete those trials.

    2. Voidwatch: The loot system is ass, the Fights itself are ass. SE wanted to make something challening, thats fine with me, but they made Voidwatch ass. The fights are piss easy now (proc zerg style). The fact you need 18 people for this doesnt help, lowmaning is the key for FFXI. The procsystem from VW prevents lowmaning with 6 people. and the loot system sucks hardcore... 6 months since voidwatch introduction and countless fights later... still no rare/ex body.

    3. Rehashed content: dont get me wrong, I like what they did to Dynamis (minus the proc system), it still doesnt change the fact that the content is ... old. Yes Dynamis is old, no matter how you turn it around, its the same thing as before just with another package and looking at the future there is only comeing more rehashed old content (tough I liked and still like nyzul and salvage), or there is comeing endgame that is ass (WoE is ass and VW is ass too).

    4. no new areas. I would actually move this to the top. I would really like to see a new expansion on the scale of ToAU with totally NEW areas.

    5. Dev Team: Ever since Abyssea ended, we only got... ass updates. I am frustrated with this Dev team since Tanaka got fired on FFXIV and moved back to FFXI. Noone is listening to concerns. People are voicing frustration over the VW lootsystem since the relase of it (6 months ago) and still no change... Its like we are back to olde SE where the Dev just closes their ears... yeah no thx had that and dont want to have that again.

    This is definitly the last MMO I played from SE. No way in hell am I gonna touch FFXIV. I bought that game at release and got disapointed (literally stoped playing after 5 hours because it was so ass), now with the latest trend of FFXI, I really doubt SE will ever get a MMO right EVER. The same shit will start at FFXIV too, so no thx.
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  2. #42
    Player FrankReynolds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Not really, for every dollar we're paying towards FFXI, maybe three cents goes to FFXIV. SE is a big company with a whole ton of open projects in several different types of media. FFXIV is just one of those projects and very little of what we're paying is likely contributing to FFXIV at all, and this will be even less true once billing commences in a week or so.
    Yeah, their not spending it on FFXIV. Their spending it on developing other successful games and then taking the money they make from those and spending it on FFXIV . It's totally different.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damane View Post
    This is definitly the last MMO I played from SE. No way in hell am I gonna touch FFXIV. I bought that game at release and got disapointed (literally stoped playing after 5 hours because it was so ass), now with the latest trend of FFXI, I really doubt SE will ever get a MMO right EVER. The same shit will start at FFXIV too, so no thx.
    I agree 100%. In the end, all of these games are simply part of a business.

    FFXIV left such a horrible taste in my mouth from the beginning. I remember when it came out that SE was developing a new MMO. They announced their intentions and said "This will not be a Final Fantasy MMO and it will NOT be the equivalent of an add-on or sequel to 11"--it would be a completely different game. Then they release more info, and they decided to call it Final Fantasy after all. That left us 11 players wondering if they intend to abandon their current game and force the move to 14.

    I'm not even going to go in to the failure that was 14, but I do believe if it wasn't so terrible and people subscribed, they would have gladly started to wind down 11 in the hopes people make the switch. I'm not saying shut 11 down completely ( I just KNOW someone would try to call me on that one lol), but they would more or less put it on auto-pilot. Eventually there would have been abyssea and a level cap increase, but I think it would have been a much different timeline. All things considered, Abyssea wasn't terrible, per se, but they were clearly not planning for any large scale release of content in the near future. I believe they were making a business decision and decided to put all their stock in to the success of 14. Nothing wrong with that, but unfortunately it didn't pay off, and we're paying for it. FF11 has been an after thought for a number of years now, that much is pretty clear.

    I also feel that this level 99 cap increase was done VERY abrupbtly as well. It came out of nowhere. It felt like one day we were level 95, then the next day we were level 99, but had absolutely NO level 99 content to go with it. Maybe they did it to keep people away from TOR for the holiday season? I can really only speculate, but it just doesn't feel right to me.

    In the end its the same company with the same history of lying and poor customer service. To me, replacing 11 with 14 really isn't a great option.
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    Yeah, their not spending it on FFXIV. Their spending it on developing other successful games and then taking the money they make from those and spending it on FFXIV . It's totally different.
    Honestly, any money you give to them goes to everything they do. Can't really get upset with it. Its how business works.
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  5. #45
    Player Originalkord's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimble View Post
    Honestly, any money you give to them goes to everything they do. Can't really get upset with it. Its how business works.
    Not necessarily. We can actually go to the Square Enix Corporate Website and read the annual report to investors. It more than likely will actually list how money is being allocated to specific projects, and also where that money is coming from.
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  6. #46
    Player JiltedValkyrie's Avatar
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    I'm finding myself leaning toward non-MMOs right now, but that always happens to me in waves. BF3 is great after the update, I have backlog of single-player games (haven't even opened Sonic Gen), and actually, XIV is pretty damn fun now. plus, XIV's future is very, very rosey indeed.
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  7. #47
    Player Zaknafein's Avatar
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    They rushed 14 out to compete with a WoW expansion. That completely backfired.

    "Oh geez! We better make nice with the 11 crowd." Throws everything, but the kitchen sink at us via abyssea.

    "OK we have just about a year b4 XIV 2.0 comes out, and the game is less turdlike." Strings along XI faithful with more VW (crap drop rate/system), WoE (freaking dead as a doornail on weekdays, barely operational on weekends in JP primetime), and revamp/add multitudes of timesinks to old content).

    "See! In a year XIV will finally be worth paying for, and XI users will be so bored to tears they will have no choice. They must move to XIV..." No thank you!!!

    Honestly.. SE wake up, and throw some money at the XI Dev team for god's sake. Is it really that difficult of a concept.

    PS: Guy who always denies the majority of profits from XI are not being funneled into correcting XIV... seriously? Are you really that delusional?
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  8. #48
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    5. Stress. A lot of newer content seems to be full of it. When I was 15 I was willing to go through the stress and suffering of events to get armor I wanted. Now I'm 23 and that doesn't fly well anymore. I won't spend 4 hours a day, twice a week for 3 years doing an event I hate to get armor. I won't put up with the headaches of selfish players. I won't put up with the favoritism of linkshell leaders. If that's the only way to play then I quit.

    taken from another poster but this is exactly how i feel... i was going to type a WALL O TEXT, but who are we kidding this thread will either be locked or deleted and the devs will not respond to the player base.
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  9. #49
    Player Kimble's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Originalkord View Post
    Not necessarily. We can actually go to the Square Enix Corporate Website and read the annual report to investors. It more than likely will actually list how money is being allocated to specific projects, and also where that money is coming from.
    In the end though, does it really matter? They are still taking money that you willingly give them and use it on what they want.

    It would be like me going "man, I really hate the grocery part of Wal-Mart but I like to buy my games there. The money I give them for games better only go toward the electronics department to carry more games I want!"

    Just doesn't work that way.
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    I doubt I'm quitting for good but I am taking a month or two off at least. I do not find the post-90 content enjoyable, fulfilling, or rewarding. The voidwatch rewards are nice enough but trying to get a drop is like waiting for lightning to strike. Both WoE and VW take more people than I know who are on at once and joining those shout groups with 17 strangers takes me well out of my comfort zone. I also don't feel I need the top end gear to perform well any more. I do just fine without the HQest of the HQ.
    I'll probably come back off and on and enjoy a single month's worth of new content out of 6 if they keep the direction they are headed in. I've already done dynamis, nyzul, salvage, limbus, and einherjar to death when I was 75 and a few excursions to the renewed events seem exciting, but I am only really willing to put a fraction of the time I originally spent there into the new portions.
    In short, I have more interesting things to do and less time/patience to grind tirelessly for 1% droprates.
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