Dispel Flourish [Can I have it?]

[Kjara]

For the sake of all those dancers who get killed by Ice Spike's Paralyze....

[Ezikiel]

*clicks the like button*

[Byrth]

I would love this, but it is the only thing stopping dnc from doing a lot of solos. Potential balance issues?

[Radio]

Dancer is in that unique realm of jobs that I consider a support job (Cor, Brd, Rdm, Smn) and is the only one that can't dispel. I think we're due to have a dispel flourish (but please put it in Flourish I).

[GERM]

Dancer is in that unique realm of jobs that I consider a support job (Cor, Brd, Rdm, Smn) and is the only one that can't dispel. I think we're due to have a dispel flourish (but please put it in Flourish I).

DNC is more of a healing job or tank job then it is a support role.. COR and BRD are the only support jobs out there SMN and RDM are mage jobs which means they use MP to multi task and by saying RDM is support is actually insulting giving the average RDM would find more use in their job then a dnc.. (Read the RDM forum they are some pretty unhappy people there)

But I agree a dispel flourish would be nice to see especially pre 50 it would make a great tool as a main or sub job

[Radio]

DNC is more of a healing job or tank job then it is a support role.. COR and BRD are the only support jobs out there SMN and RDM are mage jobs which means they use MP to multi task and by saying RDM is support is actually insulting giving the average RDM would find more use in their job then a dnc.. (Read the RDM forum they are some pretty unhappy people there)

But I agree a dispel flourish would be nice to see especially pre 50 it would make a great tool as a main or sub job

My criteria for defining a support job: party wide refresh, haste, and other benefits to a party that aren't standard (ie: defense down on a mob, paralyze, slow etc). While I agree dnc is able to heal and tank mobs on the other side of the job it is able to enhance the parties damage with steps as well as buff the party with sambas. Pigeon holing dnc as a healer or tank only is short sighted. Sure, DNC has Waltzes but that's just one of the many JA's that make up the list, the job's major tanking tool is an optional JA that isn't even available until you level 75. Also labeling jobs that use MP only as mage jobs is also ignorant. Just because a job uses MP it can't support a party? Avatars favor, and the entire Blood Pact: Ward series are support abilities. Rdm is the only job listed I can see an argument against it being a support job but there are situations where a RDM is only needed to haste and refresh his comrades and enfeeble the opposition. I made a point in saying that those are the jobs I consider support jobs, jobs that I have played and learned to appreciate, you're welcome to your opinion but if you're going to attempt to come at my post back it up with better claims.

Back to the topic Flourish I seems to be the best place for a dispel ability to me and I think an easy way to implement it is to add a job ability at level 50 that adds dispel to one of the flourishes of that category. While weight and dispel and stun and dispel sound awesome to me I feel that animated flourish is the likely candidate for such an ability.

For those who don't think Dancer needs a dispel ability think back to when Garuda's hastega lasted 30 seconds for 120 MP, or when Corsair didn't have sleep or dispel, or when Bard could only AOE their songs. When these things were fixed other jobs were still able to exist in their own lanes. Adding dispel to Dancer's repertoire is kind of like the missing piece to a puzzle.

[Amanie]

flourish 1 and 2 have 3 flourishes, so if dispel would be a flourish, im for it being in flourish 3(OCD). make it good and have it dispel 1-5 stats depending on moves.

although if you ask me, i prefer to get a different flourish and get a dispel step!!!

[Abithra]

I agree with it being in Flourishes III, I use Flourish I/II alot so would be a pain to have it in one of those especially if the recast is not friendly

Rather it be post-49 though...

[Byrth]

I would go with Flourishes I with about a 20 second recast.

Normally, when I'm fighting a casting monster I try to Stun bad spells. I find that monster casting frequency is about equal or slower than my Violent Flourish recast (20 seconds) for most monsters I'm fighting. So if a monster casts Ice Spikes and I don't have to stun it because I have Dispel, Flourishes I is up and I can Dispel it.

Putting it in Flourishes III is not so good because Dispel is something that I want to have available whenever I need it. Striking Flourish has a long recast (2 minutes), so even if Dispel had a 20 second recast, if it was in Flourishes III and I'd used Striking lately, I couldn't use it. Striking Flourish is excellent with Rudra's, though I'm still not sure it's a responsible use of Finishing moves.

[Kjara]

I think it would go to group 1 because it's a monster-affecting move, like Desperate/Animated/Violent flourishes are.