CDC build and BLU Melee Build and spell sets suggestions

[Nightfyre]

I think my statement was taken out of context.

Mmm, I don't think so. Let me quote the sentence that best exemplifies what I took issue with:

So, as much as it irritates me to say: you are unfortunately incorrect by calling it unrealistic (at least for PC players).

As I showed, you can negate 30% of all damage taken (assuming plain 5/5 Shellra V as a baseline for MDT, more with any enhancements) with a single standard macro. That's realistic for everyone, not just PC users. There was no reason to mention Spellcast at all and doing so was in fact counterproductive because that + the quoted text implies that those who don't use it can't realistically use defensive swaps effectively, which is simply untrue.

First, I never said one would cast Delta Thrust strictly because of the additional effect. I was supporting the many people who champion the use of the spell, by clearly spelling out the spell's capabilities to someone who appeared not to fully comprehend its value.

Delta Thrust, aside from its amazing cost-to-damage ratio, also has a chance to stick the mob with a debuff. I don't know why one wouldn't use Delta Thrust on everything, including NMs, breakfast bagels, the dancefloor, and so on.

I assumed that you had enough experience and understanding of BLU mechanics to know that physical spell damage, especially the damage of spells that neither have an attack bonus nor the ability to crit, will take a nosedive on high level/def targets and thus could only infer that you were using Delta Thrust on such NMs for the Plague effect given that it would otherwise be quite useless in that situation. I apologize and assure you I will not make that mistake again.

[Annahya]

As I showed, you can negate 30% of all damage taken (assuming plain 5/5 Shellra V as a baseline for MDT, more with any enhancements) with a single standard macro. That's realistic for everyone, not just PC users. There was no reason to mention Spellcast at all and doing so was in fact counterproductive because that + the quoted text implies that those who don't use it can't realistically use defensive swaps effectively, which is simply untrue.

This shows, rather pointedly, that you did take my statement out of context, however. To take a statement that begins with "so," without considering it against what came before it, is evidence as such. Even the qualification regarding "at least for PC players" is a contextual nod to the example I gave; one that is stripped of its relevance by separating it from the previous statements.

My statement spoke to the ability for people to use third-party macros/programs to do a great deal in the span of casting a spell, with relative ease should they be on a PC, so much so that it negates the ability to consider the timing "unrealistic." Your comments about a standard macro support my position that it is incorrect to state that it is unrealistic; but my cutting straight to the chase was not counter-productive. Your statement was a more concise counter to the person who made the original comment, but doing so does not show that it is counter-productive, nor does it invalidate its function as a conversational device.

My statement doesn't address anything about the capabilities of those without Spellcast, either - it merely states that because Spellcast exists, one cannot state that inhumanly fast gearswapping is unrealistic, because Spellcast makes it real. That is all. What I am guilty of, in the initial post regarding Spellcast, is my inability to restrain the disgust I feel for its use - and while it does bother me that I suffered from such lack of restraint, it in no way created the implication, in my words, that it was required to do so.

I entirely agree that one can defend oneself with standard macros, but defending oneself was not the crux of my statement.

I assumed that you had enough experience and understanding of BLU mechanics to know that physical spell damage, especially the damage of spells that neither have an attack bonus nor the ability to crit, will take a nosedive on high level/def targets and thus could only infer that you were using Delta Thrust on such NMs for the Plague effect given that it would otherwise be quite useless in that situation. I apologize and assure you I will not make that mistake again.

I hope I am mistaken in reading combative tone into this - it reads as though you are insulting me for clarifying my position in a way that used your quotes to thank you, and make a general obsevation about "consequence."

"To someone who" wasn't a reference to anyone but the one who said "i understand delta thrust is a good spell but i dont understand how people can act like they use it anywhere but xping and then say its worth wasting half your set points on fast cast."

And in my initial post, like others also said, I commented that combining this into one sentence was confusing, so I was addressing the points separately. "I understand delta thrust is a good spell but i dont understand how people can act like they use it anywhere but xping" influenced my comment of "clearly spelling out the spell's capabilities to someone who appeared not to fully comprehend its value." To wit, "why would you use it on anything but exp?" "Because it has great damage-to-cost ratio, and can debuff the monster."

Hopefully that clarifies any confusion.
~Anna

[Edit: I went back and removed the "First," from the beginning of a sentence you quoted. This was a legacy from a previous structure that I had not caught in the proofread, and I feared it may have cause some confusion regarding tone, subjects, etc. - the initial post also bears a note regarding the edit. I apologize if that was part of the confusion.]

[Nightfyre]

superfluous

Indeed. Perhaps a better venue for a superfluous anti-windower comment would be due next time, if that is indeed all it was. I'm sure you can understand my confusing it for a post intending to convey useful information in a thread created with the express intent of doing so.

And in my initial post, like others also said, I commented that combining this into one sentence was confusing, so I was addressing the points separately. "I understand delta thrust is a good spell but i dont understand how people can act like they use it anywhere but xping" influenced my comment of "clearly spelling out the spell's capabilities to someone who appeared not to fully comprehend its value." To wit, "why would you use it on anything but exp?" "Because it has great damage-to-cost ratio, and can debuff the monster."

Hopefully that clarifies any confusion.

Allow me to clarify for you then.

why would you use it on anything but exp?

This is the question.

Because it has great damage-to-cost ratio, and can debuff the monster.

This would be a reasonable answer, but that's not how you framed it initially.

I don't know why one wouldn't use Delta Thrust on everything

Perhaps less verbosity is in order in favor of better initial word choice if your intent is truly to clarify rather than retcon. Otherwise, carry on.