CDC build and BLU Melee Build and spell sets suggestions

[Annahya]

None of this is meant as combative, it is merely conversational. As text and the internet often blurs tone, I wanted to specify before anyone took it differently than it was intended.

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Up to 12% in rings, 5% back, 5% neck, 4% body/waist, 30% PDT and 22% MDT in a single macro. Yep, defensive swaps are for Windower users only.

I think my statement was taken out of context. I did not say "swaps are only for Windower users." I was speaking to the other poster's assertion that it was unrealistic to make swaps while "spamming delta thrust in VW and you can swap ur set in time to not get hit? its just not realistic."

I am aware of how fast a person has to use gearswap macros, as I don't use Spellcast; but the tone of this quoted statement implies that he does not believe fast swaps can be done. As such, I was pointing out that the fact that Spellcast exists makes inhuman amounts of gearswapping realistic, thereby making him incorrect. Citing the third party software shortcuts any need to even address anecdotal evidence of who does what - Spellcast's existence negates any ability to argue on this point. Perhaps I should have been more clear on this, however.

I've never seen Delta Thrust's plague effect land on any NM of consequence. It's a very MP-efficient spell and also useful when farming fodder mobs (hello Dynamis), but sadly not useful on NMs.

Can I get some, any evidence Delta Thrust's plague actually sticks on relevant NMs?

Plague does not stick on NMs in any capacity from any source.

I never said one would cast Delta Thrust strictly because of the additional effect. I was supporting the many people who champion the use of the spell, by clearly spelling out the spell's capabilities to someone who appeared not to fully comprehend its value.

(As an aside, I would like to challenge notions of relevancy and consequence as it relates to the discussion - what you are doing at the time is relevant to you, or you wouldn't be there and anything that helps what you are doing is of consequence. While some may accuse me of "playing with semantics" here, I would say that doing so is just poor critical thinking. It would be better to argue against using Delta Thrust for its plague effect - and in that case, I would agree. But, back to the point...)

Am I arguing that Delta Thrust will stick plague on Tier III Voidwatch NMs? No. I am not arguing it will stick on anything. I am stating that the spell has that effect, which is icing on an already attractive cake.

Also, I am happy to see this pointed out:

You made the jump to Delta Thrust spam out of nowhere...

As for Delta Thrust spam, I saw no one mention the words "spam", "Delta", or "Thrust" in the same post until you came along. "Spamming" Delta Thrust is idiotic in a setting such as Voidwatch.

I am fairly certain quite a few of his responses were directed at me, and my statements regarding the ubiquity of casting Delta Thrust was not intended as an assertion regarding the frequency of its use. Thank you, Prothscar and Nightfyre, for pointing this out.

Blue Mage does not receive Fast Cast I and II, we receive Fast Cast .5 and Fast Cast I. While 15 isn't half of our available points, it is 25% of our total available set points being spent on one trait with two of the spells being largely useless in any situation, and the other two only being useful when you're solo or require the extra -40 ACC of Auroral Drape over a normal Blind spell, (30 v. Kurayami), to maintain a capped evade rate.

I understand the choice of terms you use, as the Fast Cast that Blue Mages acquire is not equitable to that provided to, say, Red Mages. However, for conversational purposes, calling them I and II is functional, as this is all obviously within the context of "provided by Blue Mage Job Traits," so I think the distinction is essentially unnecessary. I chose I and II because I was trying to stick with the terminology used on the Blue Gartr wiki entry for Blue Mage Job Traits, in the interest of clarity.

Also, I was not stating, in my post, that one should set Fast Cast, merely that it is inaccurate to state that it costs half of our set points to do so. I felt this was pretty clear in my initial post, but perhaps it was not. Also, I will admit that, as with any situational discussion, I included a caveat that Fast Cast might outweigh some of the traits that were being weighed against it, but even in so doing I offered that in at least one of those situations (as an example) one would be better served just subbing RDM.

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But, again, I want to stress that none of that was intended to come across as fighting about it. I just wanted to clarify, as I know I can very fairly verbose.

Have fun, all!
~Anna

[Edit: Removed a "First," from the beginning of a sentence that was a legacy of a previous structure. It may have caused some confusion regarding tone, so I took it out.]