CDC build and BLU Melee Build and spell sets suggestions

[Tashan]

Think Limbus should verify what element it is.

It's how I found Head Butt's Stun to be Thunder as it was resisted only by Earth Elementals.

Auroral Drape has two debuffs though. I'm guessing the Silence is why it's Wind.

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Hmmm Fast Cast vs SC Bonus.

I wonder how this debate unfolds when Delta Thrust is thrown into the room.

My money's on Fast Cast.

[Prothscar]

SC Bonus provides more than our crap 5% Fast Cast.

[hideka]

it sticks like a charm to dark elementals, and undead, and other high blind resistance mobs.... i dont think ive ever seen its blind get resisted.

[hideka]

Do you have proof that it's wind based? As far as I know that would be the first case of a blue magic spell debuff that isn't aligned with the standard element. Regurgitation's bind is ice based, Magnetite Cloud's gravity is wind based, etc.

Blank Gaze: Light Elemental Dispell
Magic Hammer: Light Elemental Aspir

theres two, im sure theres more.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Magic Finale...?

Just how did you come to the conclusion magic hammer acts like Aspir? One of them deals damage and is affected by MAB, the other is not.

[Defiledsickness]

SC bonus vs Fast Cast would depend on if you can even SC on the mob. there's no xp mobs left that can survive a SC (at least when using CDC) so you wouldnt benefit from SC bonus in this case. but if you're fighting something you can WS multiple times, you'd want the bonus as SC is our largest damage dealer. Cdc - spell = SC - spell = Magic burst. also MB's now allow easier Enfeebling. Blu doesnt suffer from subbing Rdm so if you really need fast cast im sure you could do that. if you're spamming delta thrust over and over then obviously you arent worried about SCing because i REALLY hope you're not fighting a tough NM. or good luck surviving his tp spam because i know you're not wearing any defensive gear if you're so worried about spamming a spell to max your damage.

[Neisan_Quetz]

SC bonus vs Fast Cast would depend on if you can even SC on the mob. there's no xp mobs left that can survive a SC (at least when using CDC) so you wouldnt benefit from SC bonus in this case. but if you're fighting something you can WS multiple times, you'd want the bonus as SC is our largest damage dealer. Cdc - spell = SC - spell = Magic burst. also MB's now allow easier Enfeebling. Blu doesnt suffer from subbing Rdm so if you really need fast cast im sure you could do that. if you're spamming delta thrust over and over then obviously you arent worried about SCing because i REALLY hope you're not fighting a tough NM. or good luck surviving his tp spam because i know you're not wearing any defensive gear if you're so worried about spamming a spell to max your damage.

Just... what?

[Nightfyre]

Blank Gaze: Light Elemental Dispell
Magic Hammer: Light Elemental Aspir

theres two, im sure theres more.

There's precedent for Blank Gaze in Finale, along with Sheep Song and Yawn in Repose and Lullaby. Damage > MP is unique (and Poroggos are light/water based) but even then it doesn't work on undead.

At any rate it's quite clear that you didn't properly test it; 5 minutes in Sky was sufficient to prove that the blind effect is dark based. Casting Auroral Drape on a Wind Elemental will blind but not silence it, and casting on a Dark Elemental will silence but not blind it (Chaotic Eye followed by Auroral Drape will result in the "no effect" message).

[Nightfyre]

Just... what?

MACROS ARE HARD

I only set Fast Cast in lowman/solo situations, sometimes not even then. Solo is easier to justify because Sub-Zero Smash and Auroral Drape are usually both useful in that context anyway. Benthic Typhoon + Quadrastrike makes Skillchain Bonus so you should have it set regardless of use if you're using spells for damage.

[Defiledsickness]

ok so your spamming delta thrust in VW and you can swap ur set in time to not get hit? its just not realistic. are you spamming on seal mobs? i understand delta thrust is a good spell but i dont understand how people can act like they use it anywhere but xping and then say its worth wasting half your set points on fast cast. TA, DA, SCbonus, AtkBonus, AccBonus, +str/dex from spells... these all outweigh fast cast unless ur only blitzing and procing so delta is the only DD spell u set for more proc space.