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    Player Ritsuka's Avatar
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    scroll of Rebirth for whm

    Iunno to me seems like Final Fantasy 14 seems to be getting some better things in there update's then we are. I'd like to see a whm get the scroll of Rebirth on 11 would be nice. For those who don't know what the spell does it lets you raise a player with out the having the weak factor in it after you raise them.
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    Player Economizer's Avatar
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    To reply, I'll quote SE's official reply back when they were doing job manifesto Q&A:

    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Add Arise.
    Though it is planned for a version update in the future, we have already begun to look into a higher tier version of raise.

    Whether it will be called Arise or not really depends on the adjustments from here on out, but we are looking into making it cover multiple targets and other things. In regards to the stats, we’d like to make it so it has more merits than the currently existing raises, so please look forward to it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Reduce the weakness timer or add other merits to Raise II and III.
    Since the lost experience points merit has become somewhat weak now, we will look into this. However, as we will not be removing the weakness penalty, we cannot really reduce it too much.
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    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Balance is a fine thing, this spell has none. Spare me the high EXP loss, that's not balance.

    The only way a no-weakness type spell would work is via an ability that works on one person, and has a HIGH recast timer, like 1 hour.
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    Last edited by Daniel_Hatcher; 12-29-2011 at 12:29 AM.

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    Player Retsujo's Avatar
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    A raise IV with a 2.5-3 minute weakness would still be pretty amazing. Or if it still had a 5 minute weakness, negating the effects of double (or more) weakness would be amazing as well.
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    Through the confinement of Valefor I found myself in the depths of Hades. It was there that I was thrown into Cerberus' Den. Only through Carbuncle's light could I find my way.

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    Player Tsukino_Kaji's Avatar
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    They should just add remove weakness to benediction. It is a 2hr after all.
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    Player Concerned4FFxi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji View Post
    They should just add remove weakness to benediction. It is a 2hr after all.
    I like the idea, but then nin's 2hr would need a makeover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kincard
    The reason I keep coming back to XI as opposed to other MMOs is because of the content's lastability. While it is true that many pieces are outdated with each patch, to this day there are many old pieces of gear that are still near top-tier if not the top-tier. It encourages you to explore the whole breadth of content rather than asking you to bumrush and bypass all the old content just so you can grind the newer content. This is a model used by other MMOs such as WoW, and while I don't have anything against people that enjoy this model, if I wanted to play an MMO with that model there are many, many games vast superior to XI in terms of mechanics and especially customer service that offer such a model.

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    I'd Rather keep NIN 2hour as is for the situations where I don't have a WHM with Benediction on hand.

    NIN's 2hour is pretty nice as it is now, Only thing it used to be good for was Blood Warping >_>
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    Player Economizer's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    I'd Rather keep NIN 2hour as is for the situations where I don't have a WHM with Benediction on hand.
    NIN's two hour should give an auto-reraise effect and heals them to full health. The Mythic would then be updated to have Ninja Tool Expert and make it so Ninja's who two houred in the last five minutes will get some sort of buff. There, Ninja got out of the way so White Mage's two hour doesn't suck.

    Currently popping a Divine Seal'd Curaga V is just about better in every way, with less enmity. I don't even know why Benediction has enmity properties anyways, but the useless AF2+2 gear bonus to it, at least from what I've heard, doesn't even address this but instead just adds more health regeneration. One of the worst two hours in the game... can't even heal Doom reliably.
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    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Concerned4FFxi View Post
    I like the idea, but then nin's 2hr would need a makeover.
    Nah, a WHM would only 2-hour if more than one was weakened, so NIN's is still fine as is.
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    It Sounds like something they will do in the future
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