Wrong martial arts trait values

[MarkovChain]

First thing I did on the test server the other day is test Kenkonken. Well the extra martial traits on the weapon do not affect TP, but on the other hand martial values for PUP wether it being on normal wiki or BG wiki are flat wrong (who is the idiot that wrote thoses pages ?). For instance BG wiki states that PUP is geting 320 delay at 96 when at 99 i'm getting exactly 5.0 TP/hit without weapon and store TP gear. 320 tp naked would give 4.8/hit. It's not even giving 340 per hit which they claim PUP is getting at 87... We are talking here about at least 350 base trait at 99 guys.

[Tesahade]

I got 4.8/hit on live server(i just did it) I would say the test server is bugged... Also its a little crazy to jump to the people who made the MA pages are idiots, rather then that the server is bug...

[MarkovChain]

second pup nerf incoming

[Arcon]

second pup nerf incoming

Wouldn't surprise me, with all the loving PUP's been getting lately.

[Shinron-PUP]

First thing I did on the test server the other day is test Kenkonken. Well the extra martial traits on the weapon do not affect TP, but on the other hand martial values for PUP wether it being on normal wiki or BG wiki are flat wrong (who is the idiot that wrote thoses pages ?). For instance BG wiki states that PUP is geting 320 delay at 96 when at 99 i'm getting exactly 5.0 TP/hit without weapon and store TP gear. 320 tp naked would give 4.8/hit. It's not even giving 340 per hit which they claim PUP is getting at 87... We are talking here about at least 350 base trait at 99 guys.

Do you have Kenkonken's yourself, or is this something they added to the test server for testing. If so I want some KKK action . Just not sure what NPC/moogle to get it from.

[Zhronne]

You can get any trial weapon (which includes mythic weapons) simply by going at the Trial Moogle. Examining a certain trial gives you the option to receive the result of that trial.

[Dfoley]

Not sure where you are getting your info but its not all correct.

1)
With no KKK at 97 we got MA 5, not 96
http://www.zam.com/forum.html?forum=...70250218248362
Already confirmed on live and test so not sure why you are getting 350 delay when naked. Only thing I can think of is that h2h behaves differently with no weapon equipped.

At 99 it should be 320 = 4.8, try to find a 0 dly weapon and use that see if you get the same results.


Either way equip the 99 KKK and just report the 10 hit tp. Its far more useful then this trollish thread you started when other sources have already proved that we did get ma5 and it is infact the expected 320 dly.

2) To be getting exactly 5.0/ hit you need between 320 + (40~48) dly weapon equipped.

If that was true, (assuming 360), with a +61 dly taipan equipped you would expect 5.7 tp/hit, and we have already shown it was 5.2 which is exactly what the TP equations at bg and ffxi wiki both predict. Not only that, but with just MA 4 at 96 we have shown that you get 5.4 tp/hit with taipan equipped.


It is an interesting thing to consider, but repeat it with mnk and with 0 dly weapons and it might be more conclusive.

[Raksha]

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/106...=1#post4956276

[Dfoley]

Which is mighty fine for a level 95 weapon test... I was under the assumption he was going to test the 99 version.

Edit:
I have the sneaky suspicion OP left some store tp gear on by accident, only takes 5 store tp (rajas ring) to go from the expected 4.8 up to 5.0.

[Dfoley]

Can this thread be deleted.

It is 100% not true, just confirmed on test and live that at 99 10 hits = 48 tp.

Either he was trolling or he lied about being naked and still had store tp gear on.