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[Arcon]

Notice, how the only time they listened to the player base, was during the abyssea era? Maybe that is the mistake they were talking about, lol.

Are you kidding me? Everything I mentioned happened in the last half year (which was, again, half a year after the big bad returned to strike down on Vana'diel with great vengeance and furious anger), so right around the time Abyssea ended and Voidwatch took its place as the new endgame content. The paralyze fix was in the last update, so were the SCH and PUP additions (although they were in previous updates as well, also dating back half a year). That was less than two weeks ago. Did you already forget about that? Or are you trying to say that that's still the Abyssea era? If so, then what the hell are you complaining about?

[Vold]

Check out the Abyssea Was a Mistake thread. Now Mizuki Ito is trying to pull a PR stunt and imply their words were "mistranslated" by translate.google.com. I say it's not the words that show their recent mindset, but their actions.

Well it is partly true, if you take a section of that interview, and run it through translation, first to JP then back to English, it comes out as this:

Original:

While most players would agree that the Abyssea series of add-ons breathed new life into the game, the consequences of such radical new content still weigh heavy on the developers who created it. Despite the positive response from the fans, Battle Director Mizuki Ito is quick to temper that excitement. "Abyssea wasn't all positive feedback," Ito admits. "There were negative aspects to it, too." In particular, the developers were concerned about game balance. "It became something a little different than what longtime FFXI players were used to. On the one hand, it was great that people enjoyed it, but there is also the loss of game balance to consider. Now we are going back into existing content to re-establish some balance."

Machine Translated:

Most of the players of the add-on abyssea series, the new life to life in the game may agree to the new content to the fundamental result is still heavy, developers have to create it weighs The. From fans, despite a positive reaction to the fight director Mizuki Ito excitement quickly to anger. "All the positive feedback abyssea was not Ito," acknowledged. "There seems to the negative aspects of so much," was. In particular, game developers about the balance was concerned.

It's a mess. Just imagine how it comes out in Japanese. But no matter how true this might be nothing beats actions speaking louder than words and Ito's response is serious spin business when so called balance is right there whispering into his ear, "bullsh!t. bullsh!t. keep a straight face. bullsh!t. sh!t they're on to us say something about mistrust and working to improve things. ..... Dude, run!"

♫ And Ito ran, Ito ran so far away ♫


Hiromichi Tanaka: This Optimus Prime sh!t is getting old >: (

[Runespider]

Are you kidding me? Everything I mentioned happened in the last half year (which was, again, half a year after the big bad returned to strike down on Vana'diel with great vengeance and furious anger), so right around the time Abyssea ended and Voidwatch took its place as the new endgame content. The paralyze fix was in the last update, so were the SCH and PUP additions (although they were in previous updates as well, also dating back half a year). That was less than two weeks ago. Did you already forget about that? Or are you trying to say that that's still the Abyssea era? If so, then what the hell are you complaining about?

Don't talk about the paralyze issue, that took them 7 years to fix, that's how long people complained about it. If that's listening they listen as well as my grandpa with his dodgy hearing aid.

The big communication era was about and during Abyssea content times, that's when stuff was complained about and acted on in a timely manner.

[Arcon]

Don't talk about the paralyze issue, that took them 7 years to fix, that's how long people complained about it. If that's listening they listen as well as my grandpa with his dodgy hearing aid.

Seven years of ignoring, now they fix it and you say now is the time when they don't listen anymore?

Even if your train of thought made any sense, it's just one example of many I mentioned.

The big communication era was about and during Abyssea content times, that's when stuff was complained about and acted on in a timely manner.

And yet you still fail to show me even one example of this.

Also, how exactly did the "communication" even take place? The forums themselves were created at the end of the Abyssea era. How did you communicate with them before? E-mails you sent in? Whatever they read on other forums? Is that what you call communication? There was hardly any communication at all for the last seven years (including the majority of the Abyssea time), because there simply wasn't any way to effectively submit feedback. Sure, some people may have actually bothered with e-mails, but it pales in comparison with now, when pretty much everyone who's interested in venting has the proper forum to do so.

[Hayward]

Doesn't it get tiring currying favor with the developers while they kick you in the stones, Arcon? No one with any sense takes you seriously anymore as you relentlessly aim for some kind of sushi-flavored doggie treat or something by arguing against legitimate complaints.

Sorry, Arcon, but the threads hammering the current development crew is quite justifiable. You know it. I know it. Anyone who has seen the pattern since Heroes knows it.

[Sparthos]

Right, SE didn't listen when we complained about overcrowded NMs. The two extra ??? were just never noticed before. They also didn't listen when we complained about Guku and Tunga. It was just bad random that we never saw the key items for them in chests before. And the Atma reinfusing and Atma quick selection have always been there, they were just triggered to show up only when the people started asking for it. And paralyze still eats items, the current functionality is just a glitch, I'm sure. And SE didn't listen to the THF who were dissatisfied with Bully. They just decided all on their own that they should enhance it the way all the THF wanted it to. And they didn't care that PUP were complaining about a lack of loving all this time, they just went ahead and gave them some anyway. Because that's just the kind of inconsiderate bastards they are.

You mean all those Abyssean era patches when they seemed to get that making an MMO means actually listening to the base and responding with patches within the year? I agree, SE did listen and they got their praise for that. We're in the Voidwatch era now and as you've seen the results of player concerns has been met with nerfs and silence.

Devs: Realmrazer will be nerfed, we feel it makes Hexa Strike seem useless.
Players: WTF? I'm a melee WHM and I LOVE REALMRAZER.
Devs: But your Hexa will be obsolete and that would be too powerful. Balance.
Players: So what's the point of Realmrazer if it will be nerfed?
Devs: Balance. We want Hexa Strike to remain on top because it is WHM unique and other classes to use Realmrazer.
Players: So a level 66 WS should trump a merited lvl99 WS? SE, BLU uses clubs maybe they can make use of Realmrazer right?!
Devs: Balance. We won't be adding any new clubs to BLU, we feel they should use swords.
Players: SE? This isn't making any sense, what are the practical applications of this weaponskill then? Club is already a marginal weapon only a WHM BLU or PLD would use, is this nerf even necessary?
Devs: Balance. Balance. Balance. Balance. *robo-dev catches fire*

It's almost as if different people were calling the shots.

Don't even bring up para eating items or PUP lol. That took what? Since Zilart/Aht launch to rectify? Sorry, the period to collect credit expired years ago.

[Deadvinta]

I'm only chuckling at myself because in the last couple of patches, every other job got spells, ablities or traits between 90 and 99. But WAR and MNK didn't get anything new other than the weaponskills. Instead, they get nerfs handed to them.

[Atomic_Skull]

I'm only chuckling at myself because in the last couple of patches, every other job got spells, ablities or traits between 90 and 99. But WAR and MNK didn't get anything new other than the weaponskills. Instead, they get nerfs handed to them.

And their tears are delicious.

[Kimble]

And their tears are delicious.

Your thf tears are more so.

[Arcon]

Sorry, Arcon, but the threads hammering the current development crew is quite justifiable. You know it. I know it. Anyone who has seen the pattern since Heroes knows it.

And I know and I agree. That's why I complain along with them. I'm not satisfied with much of what's going on. If you think that you obviously haven't read much of what I wrote on here (unless maybe over the course of the last two weeks). All I'm doing is pointing out the stupidity in other people's posts. That doesn't mean I praise SE. I praise them for the good things they do. I complain about the bad things they do. Saying they're pure evil and never listen is just as wrong as saying they're saints and always do everything right. Alright, maybe not just as wrong, but wrong nonetheless. There are a lot of legitimate complaints against SE out there. This isn't one of them. The things I criticize aren't matters of opinion, they're matters of fact. Saying "we have to bitch because SE doesn't care if we just complain normally" is what I'm trying to disprove here. I'm saying complaining does help (and I named just a handful of examples of why above). I'm also saying that bitching doesn't help and is tiring to read. I don't argue for SE, I argue against certain players' statements. Runespider is especially guilty of this, trying to mark Tanaka as the devil himself. Which is cool, since it's his opinion. But when he goes and starts to insult him and throw random (wrong) statements around, I will call him out.

I really don't get why people don't get this. Lately it seems I have to justify my actions more than actually argue against actual issues on here. Are you all in some anti-Tanaka cult together or something? And because I'm trying to say he's not the evil overlord you all have it in for me now? I honestly don't get it.

You mean all those Abyssean era patches when they seemed to get that making an MMO means actually listening to the base and responding with patches within the year? I agree, SE did listen and they got their praise for that. We're in the Voidwatch era now and as you've seen the results of player concerns has been met with nerfs and silence.

Again, how are those "Abyssea era" patches? Runespider already called them that, and I explained, in detail, why they aren't from the Abyssea era. They all happened within the last half year. I'd call that VW era. Or not? Explain why I'm wrong instead of just replaying Runespider's words.

Don't even bring up para eating items or PUP lol. That took what? Since Zilart/Aht launch to rectify? Sorry, the period to collect credit expired years ago.

Again, this is exactly what Runespider said. And I already told him, again, in detail, why that's not a real argument against it. Even if it was a problem for years, why didn't they fix it during the Abyssea era, if that was such a glorious time of communication and puppies? Why did they fix it only two weeks ago? Or is that still Abyssea era to you?