Welcome Back Tanaka !

[Arcon]

Guess what? SE doesn't care if you say "fuckity fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck this is broken" or "mlord, I beleive that SAM is brokenth beyondeth our wildest dreameth, dost thou intend to patch this problem?" because it both runs through the SE translator equally as 'ignore'.

Right, SE didn't listen when we complained about overcrowded NMs. The two extra ??? were just never noticed before. They also didn't listen when we complained about Guku and Tunga. It was just bad random that we never saw the key items for them in chests before. And the Atma reinfusing and Atma quick selection have always been there, they were just triggered to show up only when the people started asking for it. And paralyze still eats items, the current functionality is just a glitch, I'm sure. And SE didn't listen to the THF who were dissatisfied with Bully. They just decided all on their own that they should enhance it the way all the THF wanted it to. And they didn't care that PUP were complaining about a lack of loving all this time, they just went ahead and gave them some anyway. Because that's just the kind of inconsiderate bastards they are.

[Kimble]

Right, SE didn't listen when we complained about overcrowded NMs. The two extra ??? were just never noticed before. They also didn't listen when we complained about Guku and Tunga. It was just bad random that we never saw the key items for them in chests before. And the Atma reinfusing and Atma quick selection have always been there, they were just triggered to show up only when the people started asking for it. And paralyze still eats items, the current functionality is just a glitch, I'm sure. And SE didn't listen to the THF who were dissatisfied with Bully. They just decided all on their own that they should enhance it the way all the THF wanted it to. And they didn't care that PUP were complaining about a lack of loving all this time, they just went ahead and gave them some anyway. Because that's just the kind of inconsiderate bastards they are.

Notice, how the only time they listened to the player base, was during the abyssea era? Maybe that is the mistake they were talking about, lol.

[Zirael]

Notice, how the only time they listened to the player base, was during the abyssea era? Maybe that is the mistake they were talking about, lol.

Check out the Abyssea Was a Mistake thread. Now Mizuki Ito is trying to pull a PR stunt and imply their words were "mistranslated" by translate.google.com. I say it's not the words that show their recent mindset, but their actions.

[Arcon]

Notice, how the only time they listened to the player base, was during the abyssea era? Maybe that is the mistake they were talking about, lol.

Are you kidding me? Everything I mentioned happened in the last half year (which was, again, half a year after the big bad returned to strike down on Vana'diel with great vengeance and furious anger), so right around the time Abyssea ended and Voidwatch took its place as the new endgame content. The paralyze fix was in the last update, so were the SCH and PUP additions (although they were in previous updates as well, also dating back half a year). That was less than two weeks ago. Did you already forget about that? Or are you trying to say that that's still the Abyssea era? If so, then what the hell are you complaining about?

[Sparthos]

Right, SE didn't listen when we complained about overcrowded NMs. The two extra ??? were just never noticed before. They also didn't listen when we complained about Guku and Tunga. It was just bad random that we never saw the key items for them in chests before. And the Atma reinfusing and Atma quick selection have always been there, they were just triggered to show up only when the people started asking for it. And paralyze still eats items, the current functionality is just a glitch, I'm sure. And SE didn't listen to the THF who were dissatisfied with Bully. They just decided all on their own that they should enhance it the way all the THF wanted it to. And they didn't care that PUP were complaining about a lack of loving all this time, they just went ahead and gave them some anyway. Because that's just the kind of inconsiderate bastards they are.

You mean all those Abyssean era patches when they seemed to get that making an MMO means actually listening to the base and responding with patches within the year? I agree, SE did listen and they got their praise for that. We're in the Voidwatch era now and as you've seen the results of player concerns has been met with nerfs and silence.

Devs: Realmrazer will be nerfed, we feel it makes Hexa Strike seem useless.
Players: WTF? I'm a melee WHM and I LOVE REALMRAZER.
Devs: But your Hexa will be obsolete and that would be too powerful. Balance.
Players: So what's the point of Realmrazer if it will be nerfed?
Devs: Balance. We want Hexa Strike to remain on top because it is WHM unique and other classes to use Realmrazer.
Players: So a level 66 WS should trump a merited lvl99 WS? SE, BLU uses clubs maybe they can make use of Realmrazer right?!
Devs: Balance. We won't be adding any new clubs to BLU, we feel they should use swords.
Players: SE? This isn't making any sense, what are the practical applications of this weaponskill then? Club is already a marginal weapon only a WHM BLU or PLD would use, is this nerf even necessary?
Devs: Balance. Balance. Balance. Balance. *robo-dev catches fire*

It's almost as if different people were calling the shots.

Don't even bring up para eating items or PUP lol. That took what? Since Zilart/Aht launch to rectify? Sorry, the period to collect credit expired years ago.

[Arcon]

Sorry, Arcon, but the threads hammering the current development crew is quite justifiable. You know it. I know it. Anyone who has seen the pattern since Heroes knows it.

And I know and I agree. That's why I complain along with them. I'm not satisfied with much of what's going on. If you think that you obviously haven't read much of what I wrote on here (unless maybe over the course of the last two weeks). All I'm doing is pointing out the stupidity in other people's posts. That doesn't mean I praise SE. I praise them for the good things they do. I complain about the bad things they do. Saying they're pure evil and never listen is just as wrong as saying they're saints and always do everything right. Alright, maybe not just as wrong, but wrong nonetheless. There are a lot of legitimate complaints against SE out there. This isn't one of them. The things I criticize aren't matters of opinion, they're matters of fact. Saying "we have to bitch because SE doesn't care if we just complain normally" is what I'm trying to disprove here. I'm saying complaining does help (and I named just a handful of examples of why above). I'm also saying that bitching doesn't help and is tiring to read. I don't argue for SE, I argue against certain players' statements. Runespider is especially guilty of this, trying to mark Tanaka as the devil himself. Which is cool, since it's his opinion. But when he goes and starts to insult him and throw random (wrong) statements around, I will call him out.

I really don't get why people don't get this. Lately it seems I have to justify my actions more than actually argue against actual issues on here. Are you all in some anti-Tanaka cult together or something? And because I'm trying to say he's not the evil overlord you all have it in for me now? I honestly don't get it.

You mean all those Abyssean era patches when they seemed to get that making an MMO means actually listening to the base and responding with patches within the year? I agree, SE did listen and they got their praise for that. We're in the Voidwatch era now and as you've seen the results of player concerns has been met with nerfs and silence.

Again, how are those "Abyssea era" patches? Runespider already called them that, and I explained, in detail, why they aren't from the Abyssea era. They all happened within the last half year. I'd call that VW era. Or not? Explain why I'm wrong instead of just replaying Runespider's words.

Don't even bring up para eating items or PUP lol. That took what? Since Zilart/Aht launch to rectify? Sorry, the period to collect credit expired years ago.

Again, this is exactly what Runespider said. And I already told him, again, in detail, why that's not a real argument against it. Even if it was a problem for years, why didn't they fix it during the Abyssea era, if that was such a glorious time of communication and puppies? Why did they fix it only two weeks ago? Or is that still Abyssea era to you?

[Atomic_Skull]

Nerfing jobs because their too lazy to fix the weaker ones.

It's about time WAR and MNK got some comeuppance.

[Tsukiumi]

It's about time WAR and MNK got some comeuppance.

You've met some really unpleasant people then o.o All the MNKs and WARs I've met have been nice, fun people.

Edit: Got Ninja Edited XD

[SNK]

Shoha honestly works better then Fudo on high defense mobs. Otherwise Fudo is better.

[Alhanelem]

Hasn't worked so far.

Neither has the 3294872 "Welcome back Tanaka, you suck!" threads. And yes, there HAS been several of them.