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[Arcon]

This is a poor, "I learned how to play mage in abyssea" attitude.

No, this is reality. You have a "I still only play Abyssea" attitude if you think mages can't run out of MP. Even in VW you can run out of MP if you're unlucky with procs for a while, not to mention Legion and anything that will be added after that. Or what's your magical solution to MP depletion when you're trying to get AM and ga/ja procs? How is my Abyssea leveled brain (which isn't the case, by the way) not seeing the obvious, which you so clearly do?

[katz]

I think they are refering to taru mp pools with /rdm or /sch subs and refresh equipment worn....not a nakied galka

ps drinking mp refresh and mp medications casting tieir 1 spells......

[Karbuncle]

There's nothing wrong with night terror, except for the fact that it's terrible, even with the damage bonus. It needs to be a lot more powerful, especially given the gimmick.

Diablos is all about dreams- it makes complete sense that he has abilities that have to do with sleep.

Making sense doesn't always make for good abilities. Of all Diabolos' abilities, only 2 deal with sleep. Nightmare, and NightTerror.

Nether Blast is a good example of how it could be handled. If they're going to make it to where it does bonus damage while the enemy is asleep, they should make it to where it does not wake the enemy up. Which is probably impossible since it would have to be a deep-sleep effect like Nightmare Mandragora. But it should not wake the enemy up.

That said, Its damage should be boosted to about 1,000 Damage as a base. 75BP's blow it out of the water, Its got consistency on its side, But if FFXI Has taught of anything, Consistent BP damage means nothing when other jobs can be just as consistent for 2x as much, 2x as often, and have TP Damage phase thrown in.

[Alhanelem]

Nether Blast is a good example of how it could be handled. If they're going to make it to where it does bonus damage while the enemy is asleep, they should make it to where it does not wake the enemy up.

The mechanic is fine as it is. You simply use this ability when you WANT to wake the enemy up. It's situational, like every other god dang thing in the game.

However, it should be much stronger than it is, befitting an ability used in such an uncommon situation.

There's nothing wrong with the ability. It's just like Dream Eater in Pokemon- and that was quite a popular move for some time in that game. Being able to do ~1500 damage to a sleeping mob and not wake it up would be ridiculously overpowered.

[Karbuncle]

The mechanic is fine as it is. You simply use this ability when you WANT to wake the enemy up. It's situational, like every other god dang thing in the game.

I can't even name a reasonable situation where you would sleep something for the purpose of waking it up with a BP Later intentionally. Can you?

[Alhanelem]

I can't even name a reasonable situation where you would sleep something for the purpose of waking it up with a BP Later intentionally. Can you?

Theres about a million reasonable situations. How many times have you sleepga'd a bunch of monsters, then killed one before the others woke up? You are ready to fight another monster- therefore you have a prime target for this ability. You didn't sleep the mobs *specifically* to use the ability, you slept them for crowd control, like any normal person. It simply presents the opportune moment to use this ability.

The only reason it's not used is because it sucks. It needs to do way more damage than it does given it's MP cost.

e.g. damage on non-slept mob = comprable to damage of any other blood pact. Damage to slept mob = at least 50% more than that. Currently, the ability is sub-par in the former situation and meh in the latter. If it actually had a power level that would make it attractive, I would try to use it at every opportunity.

[Karbuncle]

Theres about a million reasonable situations

Be more specific. If theres a Million or so, even being an exaggeration, You should be able to name a few specific situations where You would have Diabolos out, It would be preferred over a 75 BP, and You'd actually invite a Summoner to.

Problem is, Its an unreasonable request for me to ask you this, because there are no situations where this BP Can be useful. I was going to bring up Dreameater In my last post, But honestly Pokemons mechanics function differently, Sleeping has a great effect because its a turn based game. in FFXI, an Ability designed to be used while the mob is asleep is just garbage unless it didn't wake the enemy up.

You sleep the enemy for a reason, and any situation where you'd crowd-control sleep, People would already be fighting the one mob you'll start with. Keeping Diabolos out in preparation for the next mob would just gimp your damage by not using another pet inbetween. If you did use other BP's inbetween, You run the risk of timer not being up.

The BP is completely impracticable, so is its gimmick. Any situation you may give to make this BP seem useful would just be full of holes because this gimmick does not integrate well into FFXI.

How many times have you sleepga'd a bunch of monsters, then killed one before the others woke up? You are ready to fight another monster- therefore you have a prime target for this ability.

Maybe a few times, But I've never seen a summoner brought a long to a situation like this. The only time i can think of doing this, ever is Dynamis, Which you'll be wanting to kill quickly. Waiting for a pet to BP before fighting is just going to slow you down, Even assuming you have Diabolos out.

Oh, And a 75 or 70BP would still be twice as strong, and reliably consistent considering the level difference. So it would be stupid to use Diabolos in that situation.

The only reason it's not used is because it sucks. It needs to do way more damage than it does given it's MP cost.

Well, At least we agree on something. The BP Sucks. if it was just an "okay" BP, but did better than 75BP's if the mob was asleep, It would make sense that its such a gimmicky BP, cause it would be situationally stronger than 75BPs, but as is, its just a gimp useless BP.

[Alhanelem]

Oh, And a 75 or 70BP would still be twice as strong,

That's the only reason this is a problem. As I said. The only thing that needs to be done to it is make it stronger. The BP costs more (a lot more if you used diabolos' nightmare to make a 1-2 combo) than the BPs people currently use, but is weaker (even with the bonus sometimes). SE seems to think that we can't have good damage out of light or dark element.

Maybe a few times, But I've never seen a summoner brought a long to a situation like this.

Maybe you haven't, but some people do. Most people don't really use summoner at all, so your statement doesn't hold much water.

These days, I actually use SMN more than any of my other jobs.

[Karbuncle]

Did you continue to read or just stop halfway through.

[DaBackpack]

This is a poor, "I learned how to play mage in abyssea" attitude.

It's not that you necessarily NEED the refresh, but having the extra MP gives you freedom to be a bit less frugal with spells.
It's not a matter of running out of MP, but rather one of casting more spells in the same time period.
I would not call this a good reason to keep an avatar out, though. There are better options at the moment.