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    If you join a LS which isn't 2-3 timezones within your own, I'd say you've made the bed in which you have chosen to lie, and you have nobody to blame but yourself for staying up till stupid hours of the morning. No endgame event in the FF of 2012 takes longer than 2 hours and everything can be scheduled properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brolic View Post
    hahah if you still have a ls "leader"
    I'm not talking about abyssea content and before abyssea most stuff was done in linkshells so stop forgetting about the concept of context and making yourself sound like you shouldn't have been let out of the salt mines.
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    If you join a LS which isn't 2-3 timezones within your own, I'd say you've made the bed in which you have chosen to lie, and you have nobody to blame but yourself for staying up till stupid hours of the morning. No endgame event in the FF of 2012 takes longer than 2 hours and everything can be scheduled properly.
    I can understand that you are probably an EST player and have never had to struggle to find a LS in your time zone, EST and JP players are the majority so finding a shell isn't much of an issue. If you don't play in these 2 timezones then you have a few choices, stay up in the early morning to do events with EST/JP players, try find a server with a large population in your timezone or don't do endgame. Almost everyone in a decent sized HNMls at 75 cap had players in this position, staying up late to do content...they didn't do it for any other reason than they had no other serious choice.

    A lot of players had to stay up very late to do stuff like Ein and it could take a long time to get shells for most other things like limbus/dyna. I used to really envy EST/JP players at 75 cap with how easy it was for them to find shells, this is one of the reasons I loved Aby content so much...it made this whole worry a non-issue. Schedules and time zones issues were a thing of the past, with big events they will surely be right back.
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    Ls ending times more often than not tend to be extremely loose guidelines which makes "oh 15 minutes less sleep wont be too bad" turn into "why am i awaaaake? i should have gone to sleep an hour ago but they wont pop the item I'm in the lead for yet or admit they're gonna do it tomorrow." or any other number of things.

    This is unless Mahoro expected me to find enough players to do 18 man events within a 26 square mile area that all happen to be on the same server.
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    Last edited by Khajit; 02-08-2012 at 05:19 AM.

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    No, but at the same time I am not decrying the existence of LS-sized events because of the time zone in which I live. I understand and sympathize with Runespider's problem. I am assuming she lives in an EU time zone, and it has always been difficult to get the right group when the majority of players live in PST/EST/JP time zones. We have a few EU members in our own EST-based LS. At the same time, however, no MMO designs its events with the mindset that "oh we can't have X event because the EU players won't be able to get groups for it." If I willingly played a Korean MMO and knew the majority of its players were 12 hours ahead of me, I would not fault the game's designers for making a large-scale event not tailored to my time zone.

    Ultimately, if the desire to do a particular event is there, there is the hope that EU players can find like-minded individuals via /sh or forming their own LS's. Otherwise, like Rune said, they can choose to join an NA LS, forgo the content entirely, or perhaps do the new content on weekends when work/school schedules are less restrictive.
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    Shout groups will undoubtedly be common for this event, especially considering the low cost for entry. It isn't reasonable to denounce the event just 'cause it requires people to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahoro View Post
    No, but at the same time I am not decrying the existence of LS-sized events because of the time zone in which I live. I understand and sympathize with Runespider's problem. I am assuming she lives in an EU time zone, and it has always been difficult to get the right group when the majority of players live in PST/EST/JP time zones. We have a few EU members in our own EST-based LS. At the same time, however, no MMO designs its events with the mindset that "oh we can't have X event because the EU players won't be able to get groups for it." If I willingly played a Korean MMO and knew the majority of its players were 12 hours ahead of me, I would not fault the game's designers for making a large-scale event not tailored to my time zone.

    Ultimately, if the desire to do a particular event is there, there is the hope that EU players can find like-minded individuals via /sh or forming their own LS's. Otherwise, like Rune said, they can choose to join an NA LS, forgo the content entirely, or perhaps do the new content on weekends when work/school schedules are less restrictive.
    *Cough*
    Considering I live in Korea and yet do not speak Japanese (KST and JST are both GMT+9) then I'm rather limited to EU / NA shells. NA shells usually run in EST/PST evening times, which happen to be exactly when I'm at work, thus their pretty much a no-go unless on weekends. EU shells usually do events at 3~4AM my time and finish prior to me needing to go to work. I am thus forced to make a choice, I either don't play FFXI or I go to sleep at 9~10PM and wake up at 3:30am. I'll let people work out which one I chose.

    SE did not create region servers for FFXI instead favoring a mixed environment. Due to this you are forced to make sacrifices if you want to play and you live in a non-optimal time zone. Part of me really wish's SE would designate certain servers for different regions, but that has it's own drawbacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khajit View Post
    The recent resurgence in talent at making everything work in the most retarded way possible is removing whatever enthusiasm I(and probably others) had for Legion at an alarming rate.
    Given the description of the Voidwatch ticket systems and other very recent changes, I expect at least one element in Legion to make no sense whatsoever. It's the obvious progression.

    Maybe one monster each round will be passion pink and all of it's actions will be described in extremely flowery prose from a romance novel such as "Bubblemonkey's steadfastly soft sadness stick is badly burned by dread Dragon Breath for 219 damage!"

    Maybe one monster out of every round will ignore all everything happening within FFXI and instead march directly out of my computer screen and into my kitchen. It will then eat whatever leftovers I happen to be looking forward to having later that week, then return to FFXI with the entirely of it's graphics contorted into a three dimensional Troll-face. From that point, the battle will proceed normally.

    Maybe everything will be Kewpie mayonnaise. Every thing. Forever. Kewpie mayonnaise.

    Nothing will surprise me. They're very creative, particularly when it would be best to just implement something simpler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saevel View Post
    SE did not create region servers for FFXI instead favoring a mixed environment. Due to this you are forced to make sacrifices if you want to play and you live in a non-optimal time zone. Part of me really wish's SE would designate certain servers for different regions, but that has it's own drawbacks.
    Lol it'd be even harder to find ppl to do stuff with with regional server. You either can't find anyone on NA server when you play, or have entier server full of JPs, who doesn't like to pt with outsiders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afania View Post
    Lol it'd be even harder to find ppl to do stuff with with regional server. You either can't find anyone on NA server when you play, or have entier server full of JPs, who doesn't like to pt with outsiders.
    The point of region servers is that you get to choose which region you play in. There are enough English speaking people in the JST / KST region to form a decently functional community. Problem is they are scattered amongst all the servers and thus don't directly interact. Same with the EU players. There are more then enough of those to create a fully functional end game community but because their scattered across all the servers then their interaction becomes limited and fragmented. Current system ends up with only two large player base's, one in JP and the other NA.

    On the reverse side, making region servers would create periods of down time and reduce server to player efficiency. The way it is now SE can use about 1/2 the servers they would require due to the JP and NA not sharing peak play times.
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