Seriously, VW loot system..come on.

[Nynja]

I'm pretty calm actually, I just cant stand people who blatantly lie lol.

I'd really love to know what you're holding onto that you're 470/480 and cant do anything about it

[Zinato]

That's just it right now with T4 nation x3, Jeuno T6 and Zilart T3 there are roughly 100+ R/X items of various shapes and sizes. (with more to come) In order to take advantage of the system you have to save the original drop on the character doing VW, this means no mule and no dropping it, storing if the option becomes avalible is also impossible. (though it would help) By choosing to drop a piece of gear that is "junk" to you body, bullet, etc. to save space is to drop any profit or sharing that would come after. The system as it stands essentially forces players to keep items they don't want. I'm not concerned about just a little space, we are talking in the hundreds, one for the original and a second for the ticket. I mean, sure you could drop the original but then why even add the system, if no one will ever get tickets on items they don't want? It really doesn't matter if any player has inventory issues at this time, I don't think many players will claim to have 100+ free spaces.

*It's possible someone may argue "But, why don't you sell the tickets before doing more VW" Fact is with when and where VW shouts are made skipping shouts to sell product seems rather foolish, on top of which this still doesn't address the need to save the original.

[Insaniac]

There may be 100+ R/E items but how many that people give enough of a crap about to make it worth your time to keep the original on you to force a slip? How many of those drops are drops that you wouldn't physically keep on you once you get them anyway? If you can't make room for 3-4 r/e items in your storage you are sitting on some extremely situational gear that probably serves almost no purpose.

[FrankReynolds]

There may be 100+ R/E items but how many that people give enough of a crap about to make it worth your time to keep the original on you to force a slip? How many of those drops are drops that you wouldn't physically keep on you once you get them anyway? If you can't make room for 3-4 r/e items in your storage you are sitting on some extremely situational gear that probably serves almost no purpose.

I'm still pretty unclear on this... You have lots of space now, but your hoping they keep putting in more useless crap to carry around so that you have less space?

[Zinato]

A few examples are (I actually have these)
Ace's Mail
Akvan Bullet
Lux Dagger
3 pieces of Athos

That's 6 right there and that's not even everything. All things people want and would buy tickets for, all things that are 100% worthless to me. (I've saving them for now in case Altana forbid I ever level jobs using them and I've already dropped them.) Now imagine the other half dozen bodies, the Ig-Alima and Rex weapons, Qilin HQ dagger/boots and who knows what else. Oh and the tickets for the 6 I already have should I see more of them drop (all but Ace's I've dropped at least one of) Its the only flaw I currently see in the system. All it takes to fix is A) fewer tickets or (much more likely) B) reconsider and allow the first drop to be converted as well. (even if it takes 2-3 conformation screens if that's what the DEVs are worried about)

[Geabrielle]

I was sorely hoping for the tickets to be tier based or mob based instead of making the requirement of already having the rare/ex item. The sole problem with that is that there aren't that many of the top tier drops in circulation or that won't be exploited for the rarity, which means massive gil prices. yes, this will allow the fortunate to help their friends, but the ratio is highly discrepant.

[Ravenmore]

Yep just as I thought this was a whole wag the dog. Seeing fewer post about how retarded they are about relics and ADL.

[Nynja]

A few examples are (I actually have these)
Ace's Mail
Akvan Bullet
Lux Dagger
3 pieces of Athos

All the VW3 gear, despite SE's claims, actually have a pretty decent drop rate, compared to VW2 loot, so theres not much point holding onto them. Lux you can get rid of. Akvan bullet you might actually get some interest if you get tickets, same with ace's mail.

which means massive gil prices.

hey if the price upsets you...dont buy it?

[Kimble]

You can't store voidwatch gear on a moogle slip correct?

[Zinato]

As of now no, but people have been pushing for it. Assuming VW gear did become storable that would help fix the issue as you would only have to have the R/X drops of the NMs the run entails rather then everything you've ever gotten a drop from. Not a perfect fix but, a step in the right direction.