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    Player Brolic's Avatar
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    Has anyone actually tried to valuate the void watch drops? They are at best sidegrades, the 2 “big” drops that I have are the viodwrought and the kaggen bodies. i cant see myself paying 5, 10 or 50mil for either of those. Or for any vw drop for that matter.

    50mil is 1\2 a relic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brolic View Post
    Has anyone actually tried to valuate the void watch drops? They are at best sidegrades, the 2 “big” drops that I have are the viodwrought and the kaggen bodies. i cant see myself paying 5, 10 or 50mil for either of those. Or for any vw drop for that matter.

    50mil is 1\2 a relic
    i could see tickets selling for 1 mil depending on waht its for. what be the point of the r/ex body being less then the +1 from AH
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    Why does everything always come down to "RMT WILL EXPLOIT IT"?!? loooool Voiddust market is going to get demolished by RMT BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWw

    neo-dynamis has been out for how long now, and its pretty profitable. I dont see RMT in there though.


    and we need to see how the tickets are implemented to gauge utility and how the playerbase will make use of it. Right now, one thing that is for sure, unless Camate got it translated wrong, is that there wont be 200 types of tickets coming into circulation (1 per rare/ex item), based on the "pick an item of your choice" line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tile View Post
    i could see tickets selling for 1 mil depending on waht its for. what be the point of the r/ex body being less then the +1 from AH
    One could hope they become sanity checks for the AHables, but as long as the "must have" requirement is there to even get a ticket, rarity is going to influence the ticket cost. I don't think people should be getting their hopes up on the ability to farm weaker NMs to buy drops from the harder ones, either. You're either gonna need to keep farming the hard ones or be blessed with a fat wallet.
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    Also he's not stated how soon this would be implemented. It could be next year for all we know.
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  6. #556
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahoro View Post
    It doesn't say "the same item." Camate can correct himself, sure, but the way it reads seems clear (I admit the language following could support your theory). And if it IS the way you suggested, then it's an unqualified misrepresentation.
    Quote Originally Posted by Camate
    Since there are a lot of rewards items, meaning a large amount of tickets to be created, we will start off by looking into implementing the hard to get items first.
    This is the conflicting statement. Forgive my pessimism but I would lean towards the less awesome option.
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  7. #557
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    Quote Originally Posted by Staren View Post
    Also he's not stated how soon this would be implemented. It could be next year for all we know.
    Depends on if it helps SAM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    We are currently looking into enhancing elemental spirits.
    Miracles do happen!

  8. #558
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirabelle View Post
    At 5 million a ticket?
    At 10 Million?
    50 Million?

    Is there a price where that sentiment changes? I'm sure many players would prefer a good infusion of gil from the mightily rich to giving away a valuable item.

    Personally I think this system just favors the fortunate few rather than the unlucky. It doesn't stop you from going 0/200 on an items, but rather benefits the lucky guy that goes 3/6 on Toci's harness.

    I'd rather see a system whereby if you win a second rare/ex, you can convert it into a ticket that then falls into the general treasure pool of the alliance. That way only those that have actually fought the monster can get access to it and LS's can set up rules if they wish to reward certain members with tickets. Keep it ex so it can't be re-sold.
    It is not a game developer's job to enforce arbitrary morality.

    The only people freaking the hell out over the selling system are the ones who are uncomfortable/insecure with the belief that anyone will give them items for free. That's all it comes down to - in which case, it's not the game's fault if you need a more proactive attitude. What's money between friends anyways? I don't just take things worth money from my pals. I buy them, fair and square, typically at a discount but rarely for free.

    Good friends don't expect charity or try to guilt their friends into giving up millions of gil.

    This system sounds potentially awesome and those of you freaking out about your "friends being greedy" need to sit the fuck down and re-evaluate yourselves.
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    I will have my revenge!

  9. #559
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    With regards to the "waa waa waa RMT", I'm pretty sure RMT are more focused on MMO's with a larger player base.

    Second, I believe in the golden law of equal trade. You put in the effort, you should get something. Life isn't random. If you go to college, you are better off than someone that didn't. If you show up to work on time and DO work, you will get your salary at the end of the month. If you work out, you will look, feel and be better. If you put 10,000 hours into anything you will reach "genius" status at it. You put time and effort into something, you will get something out of it. (i really hope this is clear to all you warped generation Z and Next kiddies!)

    They said a long time ago FFXI's community would replicate and be based on real social economics.
    The only example from RL that I can think of that is in anyway relevant to VW is smoking; smoke - maybe you will get cancer, heart disease, upper respiratory problems, maybe you won't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insaniac View Post
    This is the conflicting statement. Forgive my pessimism but I would lean towards the less awesome option.
    Such conflicting wording, I'm getting less and less optimistic about this every day
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