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    Player Ravenmore's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elgorian View Post
    Also, if 18 people were to transfer spoils to the pool at once.... I'm pretty sure no one would even have the chance to lot before things were auto-sorted, could also be abused if someone lots then fills pool so it drops...
    There is a easy way around that too they can simply put limits on what and how many of a item is allowed to go into the pool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenmore View Post
    There is a easy way around that too they can simply put limits on what and how many of a item is allowed to go into the pool.
    Also, rare/ex items can't be pushed out of the pool by usual VW junk (logs and ores), which would help as well.
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  3. #543
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    Or make it were you can't add crafting items at all.
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  4. #544
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    IDK about you guys but I'm not a dick to my friends. I would convert unneeded items into tickets to help them get annoyingly hard to get gear in an instant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saevel View Post
    IDK about you guys but I'm not a dick to my friends. I would convert unneeded items into tickets to help them get annoyingly hard to get gear in an instant.
    this shit right here, idk about you guys but i'm in a 5 man shell, 7 on a good day. i'm not about screwing the few friends i have left still playing the game.
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    I still think you guys are being overly optimistic. I can't imagine a world where SE allows us to turn Gorgets into Coruscantis or Chakrams into Harnesses.
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  7. #547
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insaniac View Post
    I still think you guys are being overly optimistic. I can't imagine a world where SE allows us to turn Gorgets into Coruscantis or Chakrams into Harnesses.
    This. Camate needs to do a bit better on explaining this. The way it reads is this. Oh you already have a lux pugio and you wish you could give it to your friend well here is 1 ticket for the lux you just got doubles of. On your 6th excess pugio aka ticket you can now give your friend all 6 tickets and they can get a lux and only a lux. Which means you need to find someone who has gotten coruscanti 6 times to get a coruscanti. This is only being mentioned for r/ex gear so plates wont be an option. I think people took a small inch that Camate gave you and ran a whole mile with it. This is a step in the right direction but unless this is as open as the first few responders made it seem I'm guessing that maybe 5-6 coruscanti tickets would be in existence right now and they'd be selling for several mil because no one expects to get more than one ticket which would not be worth keeping to give to a friend just sell it to the highest bidder. My bet is that coruscanti's would outweigh the price of a mandau. I'd love to be wrong and have Camate correct me. But this is SE and it seems their intent is only to let you pass on an item you already have to a friend. Not trade up items.
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  8. #548
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    Quote Originally Posted by saevel View Post
    IDK about you guys but I'm not a dick to my friends. I would convert unneeded items into tickets to help them get annoyingly hard to get gear in an instant.
    At 5 million a ticket?
    At 10 Million?
    50 Million?

    Is there a price where that sentiment changes? I'm sure many players would prefer a good infusion of gil from the mightily rich to giving away a valuable item.

    Personally I think this system just favors the fortunate few rather than the unlucky. It doesn't stop you from going 0/200 on an items, but rather benefits the lucky guy that goes 3/6 on Toci's harness.

    I'd rather see a system whereby if you win a second rare/ex, you can convert it into a ticket that then falls into the general treasure pool of the alliance. That way only those that have actually fought the monster can get access to it and LS's can set up rules if they wish to reward certain members with tickets. Keep it ex so it can't be re-sold.
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  9. #549
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    Sounds to me like the tickets will be specific to a piece of gear so if you dont get a harness you will not get a harness ticket. So even though it is an improvement it will not change much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Staren View Post
    This. Camate needs to do a bit better on explaining this. The way it reads is this. Oh you already have a lux pugio and you wish you could give it to your friend well here is 1 ticket for the lux you just got doubles of. On your 6th excess pugio aka ticket you can now give your friend all 6 tickets and they can get a lux and only a lux. Which means you need to find someone who has gotten coruscanti 6 times to get a coruscanti. This is only being mentioned for r/ex gear so plates wont be an option. I think people took a small inch that Camate gave you and ran a whole mile with it. This is a step in the right direction but unless this is as open as the first few responders made it seem I'm guessing that maybe 5-6 coruscanti tickets would be in existence right now and they'd be selling for several mil because no one expects to get more than one ticket which would not be worth keeping to give to a friend just sell it to the highest bidder. My bet is that coruscanti's would outweigh the price of a mandau. I'd love to be wrong and have Camate correct me. But this is SE and it seems their intent is only to let you pass on an item you already have to a friend. Not trade up items.
    Well it does say

    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    [*]Once you obtain a certain amount of these tickets, it will be possible to exchange them for a rare/ex item of your choice
    It doesn't say "the same item." Camate can correct himself, sure, but the way it reads seems clear (I admit the language following could support your theory). And if it IS the way you suggested, then it's an unqualified misrepresentation.
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    Last edited by Mahoro; 02-03-2012 at 12:37 AM.

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