Seriously, VW loot system..come on.

[Quetzacoatl]

The Tickets will be tradable and sellable.

This is why I don't like this update. Because it gives an incentive to sell these tickets instead of giving them to your LS members who need the gear they need to progress in the game. Even if you restrict it from being Bazaar'd, people will still give you a price tag via trade anyhow.

It's kind of like saying, "oh hey! I have an idea to fix this! but only if these guys can also have the choice of completely fucking you over too."

Sorry SE, not impressed.

[Dreamin]

Why do I think some people are misunderstanding and think you can get a ticket every box without even having any r/e items?

Because SE finally gives in so people are not yet reading the exact meaning behind their intend. On the surface it seems like a hugh win for the users but the fact still remains, for those unlucky people like myself or many others who are 0/250+ in many of the NMs without getting any top line ra/ex item, we still wouldn't have gotten any ra/ex. And will resulted in just buying tickets for the items. The net result will become less and less ppl will do VW and VW will become a merc ls event and they will then in term sell the tickets to the users. I think the only sure way to get around a lot of these issues are really to turn VW into a true point system and gives every player a chance or abilities to get tickets regardless on whether they have had received any ra/ex already. I've said it before, if we have to stick with this destroy item to get point, then what about giving us the ability to destroy the entire chest regardless whether there is any ra/ex in there and be able to still get a ticket to be used later on.

I've already made plans to bring my bst out of retirement and start farming dynamis for currency since dynamis is currently the easliest way to make gil (neither haven't had any appeal for me in a long time).

[SpankWustler]

This is why I don't like this update. Because it gives an incentive to sell these tickets instead of giving them to your LS members who need the gear they need to progress in the game. Even if you restrict it from being Bazaar'd, people will still give you a price tag via trade anyhow.

It's kind of like saying, "oh hey! I have an idea to fix this! but only if these guys can also have the choice of completely fucking you over too."

Sorry SE, not impressed.

I suspect the tickets can simply be placed in a bazaar since the world "sell" was used outright, so you have a point.

However, effectively buying an item is still a huge step up over going 0/192 and not having the item at all.

I'd compare this change to going from a house on fire to a house with a bad air conditioning unit.

[Quetzacoatl]

I suspect the tickets can simply be placed in a bazaar since the world "sell" was used outright, so you have a point.

However, effectively buying an item is still a huge step up over going 0/192 and not having the item at all.

I'd compare this change to going from a house on fire to a house with a bad air conditioning unit.

I much rather view it as from a house on fire to a house flooded with too much water trying to douse the flames (don't ask me how that happened), but that's just me.

I think SE also recognized old-school HNMLS needs, like the days that the one last straggler needing an ebody isn't getting an ebody, because everyone else has an ebody now, and they can make some awesome cha-ching from those ebodies at the expense of their straggler. Who probably is contemplating making a free deal with a rival crack dealer who happens to be their friend from the dunes. These Tickets are taking those memories and pumping the nostalgia factor up to over 9000.

[Nynja]

This is why I don't like this update. Because it gives an incentive to sell these tickets instead of giving them to your LS members who need the gear they need to progress in the game. Even if you restrict it from being Bazaar'd, people will still give you a price tag via trade anyhow.

Sounds like your LS members have a problem with each other

[Quetzacoatl]

Sounds like your LS members have a problem with each other

Nah, my current LS is awesome. I used to be in an LS like that though. :X

Yes, people can be greedy mofos and you would be naive to not at least entertain the thought that anyone could still be missing a Toci's, but they would still have to do their own VW runs without their shell. All because no one will lend out some tickets to help them out.

Sorry for being a negative nancy, but I find making these tickets able to be sold outside your ls or circle of friends is counterproductive.

[Nynja]

You make it sound like youre going to be swimming in tickets lol...theres no known system in place, for all we know you can get "body" tickets, which means to get tickets you'll need to get second/third/fourth glowy bodies....its not gonna be common.

[Arcon]

This is why I don't like this update. Because it gives an incentive to sell these tickets instead of giving them to your LS members who need the gear they need to progress in the game. Even if you restrict it from being Bazaar'd, people will still give you a price tag via trade anyhow.

That's your problem. If you play with douchebags, you'll get screwed over. Which, however, allows you to also be a douchebag and sell your crap as well, then from the money you obtain get whatever you want, since the tickets buyable. This system still has some issues, but I don't see how this is one of them. In fact, I'd count it as an advantage, since you don't have to rely on your LS mates getting a drop, but instead can just buy it from other sources.

[Dew]

They should make it where you need the following to trade in tickets:

1. Right Tier of abyssite.
2. At least one kill of the said nm that item drops from.

That way you have to do the content still, but if you don't get the drops you can still get them from tickets. So you don't have people skipping fights like Rex and getting all the drops without fighting the nm. If they want the item they will put in the effort to get that abyssite and kill.

[Dragonlord]

If this system is implemented, the highly sought after items like toci's harness will have high demand for its tickets. Low supply and high demand will mean these will maintain quite high prices. If some one in your linkshell is willing to pass up x mil gil so you can have 1/6th of an item then that's great for you. But, i wouldn't expect anyone to do it for me, nor would i give up that voucher bc it was my input (time, stones, cells, sheer luck) that got the voucher.

If SE really designed this system to have LSmates benefit from each other, then it fails that task. As an overall addition to the VW system, its not bad. It adds more gil incentive into doing the event and a reason for people to repeat VWNMs they have already done. So they can help others while still getting rewards.