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    I should clarify it seems there is confusion. At no point did I oppose increased drop rates of any kind, in fact earlier in the thread I supported it. By all means players have every right to ask for any adjustments they deem worthy. Also I never at any point called players unwilling or choosing not to use Voidwatch in anyway lazy, as I don't think this is true. Additionally, I knew full well what I was doing speaking an unpopular opinion in a thread like this. "Finally, at risk of being hated by this entire thread, board and even my server."

    Now then, at no point should empyrean/relic/mythic of any kind be a sorting feature on players. However, right now that is what is has become. I'm glad so many people have the top tier weapons and gear for every job they own, but the game is not only for you and other players deserve a shot at content too. I don't think many people are going to claim that a majority of players are well geared and good players. (also when I said "that perle WAR with Ukko" I didn't mean most players were white/pink/teal with empyrean, I ment even in white Ukko is often superior to all other form of WS) That said, if the game caters to the minority (the well geared ones) making all content require top tier items, that really will cause a decrease in subscriptions. Also I don't think that's what Neisan means as he said "there are no good players fulltiming perle or full Emp+2. " This implys only the highest class of gear and gear swaps and the knowledge to play a job make a player in the "good" catagory. The gear part wasn't even a part of my original statements it was a response to being told "great" gear is common which I bet many players would call false. But, since I bothered to respond, yes the DEVs want players without relic/mythic/empyrean to enjoy content too, even though a majority of the players doing Voidwatch and newer events won't allow that.

    I am well aware the "fix" players seek is instant drop rate increases, a form of points to buy the items, a means to directly or indirectly give players r/x drops, or an overall pool. I just listed 4 ideas which would the DEVs pick if they had to? Who is going to complain if its not the method they seek? (I have been saying the forum is fighting itself in addition to fighting for a change.) What are the consequences of each change? Many posts simply say "add to pool spoils" quick fix end of discussion. However, would that not lead to the same item selling or the abyssea days allowing those with lots of money to gain what they seek and those without to still play the random chance game? (the very thing players were recently complaining about) On top of which I've said only the DEVs know how this will be concluded and that everyone only sees a part of the picture. (a image of water unsure if its the ocean, a pool or even a drinking glass) Players are jumping to conclusions and demanding this take priority over all other projects (even a simple programing change requires testing to ensure drops are coming at too high a rate, or that cures don't deal 9999 dmg) and that drop rates take priority over the content being enjoyed by as many as possible. For that matter we don't even know how loot is even distributed, there may be a reason some go 1/1 and others 0/400, as many have agreed the system is too random compared to other forms of event. Maybe plates take priority as a drop and if a plate drops and a body would have dropped the plate erases it. (if that's the case drop rates aren't the issue)

    My goal here wasn't to protect the current system of Voidwatch, the goal was to was to point out that the DEVs are working at fixing Voidwatch, just not the things a player may personally want. (382 posts, including many repeating players, even the half dozen threads on the topic total come nowhere near a majority of our playerbase, this is not even a fraction of a percent. I said it once before, if players really feel the need for change many, many more people need to say something. In a "petition" of sorts each player has one vote which is cast by posting, and you can't speak for others just like you can't vote in an election for a non voting family member)
    More importantly when a MOD comes to bring news of an adjustment and is met only with rage responses not even with actual feedback, just "that's not what I want go back and do it my way", that is when there are issues. It wouldn't surprise me in the least is the DEVs are keeping any adjustments on the subject a secret just to keep the peace. That is why I spoke, the attitude the thread gives is one of impatience, "My fix now or I keep raging" and after seeing the things said to the MODs bring good news, I choose to speak. I assure everyone they heard the request, repeating ourselves will do nothing but, frustrate everyone. If somehow my words were taken in any other way, I apologize.
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    Last edited by Zinato; 01-24-2012 at 09:50 AM.