Seriously, VW loot system..come on.

[Zinato]

ffxi is not still around b/c it is like WoW and u can get full gear in 2 months. People liek the challenge, and the direction this game is taking is that people need to work on a few jobsthey pick ,and assume their role. If you want to have every job, that is useful for filling in spots at events... sure. People who walk right into a run on a lesser geared job and expect to be as good and able to tank or DD as well as someone who a has been playing a job to get it to the maximum of its potential sort of defeats the purpose. Wait 2 more minutes on the shout, and u get an ochain pld, instead of risking ruining the whole run w/ a shmo pld

if u are not "hardcore" (meaning that u cant farm an ochain for some reason if u want to be pld so bad), you should not be tanking a whole VW run. 17 peopel depend on you, id rather have someone who knows their stuff and takes it seriously. if someoen is not "hardcore", go whm to VW or soemthing. sheesh

That is the exactly what the DEV team is trying to avoid. Ochain =/= Good PLD same holds for Aegis and for that matter Empyrean and DD. There are perfectly capable players with max magian weapons instead of empyrean, some even superior in flexibility within their job. For example a WAR who can tank (PDT, MDT, DT gear) and DD, even if the numbers don't match that perle WAR with Ukon. Empyrean/Relic =/= Good player, and players shouting should not expect or assume that. Conversely, lack of Empyrean/Relic =/= doesn't mean a player is not still well geared. Here is a hypothetical to consider, 5/5 +2 Ravager WAR with Ukko or a WAR with the same 5/5 +2 ravager but also -40% DT with upheaval and Magian PDT GA 99, in a situation where tanking may become needed and fanatics is unavailable? (If you include fanatics, may as well let the BLM tank)