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    Player Alderin's Avatar
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    I will be brutally honest... The thought of kaggen makes me bash my head against a wall. It is NOT fun when the alliance leader (at the moment myself), has done over 500x Kaggens and still not seen a body.. While I have witnessed first hand people going 1/4 on body drop rate.

    The alliance leader / popper needs some form of higher reward system - as the effort that they have put into putting together a run far exceeds any player's participation in the actual fight itself.

    SE you are ignoring the fact that it potentially takes at minimum of 30mins to 1hr just to get enough people for a single VW run. If that isn't deserving of a higher drop rate for alliance leader / popper then I don't know what is.

    The drop system on the legendary bodies at the moment is at best completely random, and is unfair to those of us who put in the extra effort to shout for these runs. I for one have just about given up.


    *edit* I will be one to say "destroying" the rare/ex items will be a waste of dev team time. I will speak for a lot of us here - most of us do not bother getting the logs/ores/ingots out of the chest. This will not decrease the time the chest hangs around.
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    Last edited by Alderin; 01-11-2012 at 04:25 PM.

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    Player Insaniac's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alderin View Post
    I will be brutally honest... The thought of kaggen makes me bash my head against a wall. It is NOT fun when the alliance leader (at the moment myself), has done over 500x Kaggens and still not seen a body.. While I have witnessed first hand people going 1/4 on body drop rate.

    The alliance leader / popper needs some form of higher reward system - as the effort that they have put into putting together a run far exceeds any player's participation in the actual fight itself.

    SE you are ignoring the fact that it potentially takes at minimum of 30mins to 1hr just to get enough people for a single VW run. If that isn't deserving of a higher drop rate for alliance leader / popper then I don't know what is.

    The drop system on the legendary bodies at the moment is at best completely random, and is unfair to those of us who put in the extra effort to shout for these runs. I for one have just about given up.


    *edit* I will be one to say "destroying" the rare/ex items will be a waste of dev team time. I will speak for a lot of us here - most of us do not bother getting the logs/ores/ingots out of the chest. This will not decrease the time the chest hangs around.
    While I understand your frustration the answer is not better drop rates for the popper. It's a progression system where someone willing to put the effort into setting up runs every day will be rewarded with 100% certainty after a fair amount of time. Higher drop rates for the popper would just result in 150 separate VW shouts with no one willing to join your group and have a lower drop rate than you. Not to mention the ninja pops =).
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    Player Alderin's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insaniac View Post
    While I understand your frustration the answer is not better drop rates for the popper. It's a progression system where someone willing to put the effort into setting up runs every day will be rewarded with 100% certainty after a fair amount of time. Higher drop rates for the popper would just result in 150 separate VW shouts with no one willing to join your group and have a lower drop rate than you. Not to mention the ninja pops =).
    I never said that.

    I believe that effort does not equal reward in this case. It goes both ways - 95% of the server won't shout and will wait for the 2 same people on the whole server to make a VW group so they don't have to put in any effort to reap the rewards.

    The alliance leader / popper should receive an ENHANCED drop rate or some form of beneficial reward otherwise once these 1 or 2 people finally get the body or get sick of organising a group (like I am about to be) - that NM will be dead along with the T4 home nations.

    But yes damn right I think that the people that are setting up these groups should have a 100% certainty after enough times.. Going on 500+ Kaggens (most of which I have set up myself) while others get it in a couple of runs is just beyond rediculous.

    Last run, a BLU who had no jobs levelled that could equip this - and was his first 2x Kaggen runs got the body... How is that balance?
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    Last edited by Alderin; 01-11-2012 at 06:38 PM.