Seriously, VW loot system..come on.

[Brolic]

At a bare minimum I just wish SE would make it so if you get a duplicate Rare item, it went to the pool or to another player's box automatically or something.

This is all a lot of ppl are asking, that or if you don't want an item put it in the pool.

[Xellith]

Unfortunately the dev team are sadists or just stupid so something like this will not happen.

[saevel]

Like I've said previously, this was done on purpose. They still want you to be doing this content in three years, so they've factored that in when figuring drop rates. Their spending their money on saving FFXIV and want to reduce development funds on FFXI to as little as possible. That means a small dev team with limited time and thus each event must last years instead of months.

[Camiie]

Like I've said previously, this was done on purpose. They still want you to be doing this content in three years, so they've factored that in when figuring drop rates. Their spending their money on saving FFXIV and want to reduce development funds on FFXI to as little as possible. That means a small dev team with limited time and thus each event must last years instead of months.

I know you're not defending them so don't take this as an attack on you.

I think what they fail to consider is that some of us either aren't going to do the event as is, or are going to try it and get fed up with it quickly. Good luck getting people like that to stick around for years, SE, especially when there's really not much else to do at the moment and not much promising stuff on the horizon.

[FrankReynolds]

0/74 is nothing, 4 day is what it took me... i expect 2 week in worse scenario to get the body.

OK, so how is killing an NM 225 times and not knowing if you will get the drop at the end better than a point system that says "kill X NM 225 times and you will get the drop" ?

Is nothing compare HNM where you had to BOT 1yr long and risk your account to be BAN.

Yes, that system sucked. Terrible comparison.

Is nothing compare SKY, SEA, Jar, ZNM, Dynamis, VNM where most of the item was 1yr wait....(Unless you cheated everyone, or started your own LS, get what you need and ditch who helped you)

Most of those events were actually a lot of fun (I personally hated ZNM due to the stupid picture crap, and dynamis city runs should have been 2 hour limit with higher drops). Waiting for the drop was the shitty part. It's still shitty not knowing if your effort is being wasted now. A form of currency for attaining gear like limbus coins would allow some luck factor without the complete BS chance of having 1 guy go 1/1 while it takes another guy 1,000 tries. I still don't know why you like the idea of going 0/74, while that pink dancer over there gets the drop first time though.

Of course if you compare VW with abyssea then you can say: OMG DROP IS TOO LOW. But in fact Abyssea was never the "END-GAME" content, it was the transition from lv75-99.

Abyssea did open the door for new player to join, without have to invest 7yr in the game as we did to get good armor, we all 99 now, even player that joined 2 month ago is able to catch player that been playing this game for 7yr long. I think is time to resume FFXI now.

The only reason abyssea got blown through so fast was because the requirements were too low. If it took 200 seals, and 200 Jewels/stones/cards/coins to upgrade each piece of af3 +2, you would still be in there now, calling it endgame.

VW is the new End-Game that DEV released, and you think you should be able to get all armor after 1 week?

No, I think if I do it for a week, I should know that I am 1 week closer to reaching my goal, and that the guy next to me isn't going to get the drop first pop, and then drop 2 more because he already has it, while I get nothing.

What is "Truly epic", is how you think DEV should spend 3 month to create new content that you can finish in 1 week.
What is "Truly epic", is how you can easy do dynamis now and get a RELIC to archive something instead bash on VW.
What is "Truly epic", is how it wont make any difference if you get the new Body and still have Ash club as main weapon.

Dynamis drops toki's now? I can build a relic in VW? No? OK, I guess I'll have to do both then.

What i am saying is there still tons of "Casual-Content" available in FFXI (hell everything is now..) that can keep you busy and happy, but instead you prefer to attack VW, and the whole reason is probably just because you want the "reward" without the work.

Actually, I want the reward for the work. You just keep hoping your gonna go 1/1 on something epic. I bet casinos love you.

And don't get me wrong with my signature, i hate Tanaka for different reason... You cannot ask people to work hard on something and then reduce difficulty and make fun of them, this was BULLSHIT he said something like that in interview. I don't hate him because i had to do ~7,500 final blow for mandau, but because it took me forever to get it done, then he change it to ~1000 only.

I don't hate him because he put 1,500 plate i need for Empy lv95, but because i know he will reduce that to 150 when everyone ruined they life into it. Same go for 500 PW and 1000 ADL that going to take 3yr.

What if he didn't tell you how many Metal plates it took, and then some people only had to trade 1, but you ended up needing 2,000. That would be great huh? Lottery for every thing. Some people could just talk to the moogle, and it drops mandau. others need 150 million gil in currency. Fun right.

If is what waiting VW, Nerf nerf nerf more nerf!, 100% drop all body go go!, then ya, this game don't even worth to be play, nor 14, nor any MMORPG SE ever do. Ill make sure to wait 6yr to play FFXIV so i can achieve everything in 1 week and play another game, at least i can save the 6yr of my life into a better MMORPG on market.

Nah, they will make everything in FFXIV lottery with chests too. Your friend will finish everything in 2 weeks of casual play. It will still take you 6 years to get the drops, but you will be ok with that because that is what you like.

[Ilax]

Lottery for every thing. Some people could just talk to the moogle, and it drops mandau.

Mog bonanza.... New Goblin that give novio earring. You sure you play FFXI?

[FrankReynolds]

Mog bonanza.... New Goblin that give novio earring. You sure you play FFXI?

Exactly how does that make VW chest system good?

[Transmit]

(Two bodies, two fights)

Working as intended!

Along with this I've also had 4 pairs of Dillaram Sollerets, about 9 chakrams from Pil, but no harness in around 80 fights so far. About 5 pairs of Faijin boots from Qilin, while THF's in my LS still havent got a pair yet. Whatever Akvan's body is called, with no job that can use it. Loot system is great.

I enjoy VW to an extent I just feel I would enjoy it much more with some sort of point system like Einherjar rather than the randomness it is (and I don't mind in the slightest doing 100 kills for a body drop). I feel genuinly bad for other people in my LS when I get 2 mekira's back to back.

I know a lot of people say "Remember the old days!" and I do remember the old days. Salvage was one of my favourite events, and the drop rates on bodies is similar to salvage 35's , and to make matters worse you could only do salvage once a day.... but when we got a drop, it went to the person who needed it, I didnt ever end up with two Ares's Body's because a random number generator said so. Though the drop rates are similiar to old events, it just feels like a kick in the teeth to hear about every other player getting their tenth piece you want.

[Ilax]

Time stamp in FFXI???

Working as intended!

Dude i know people that got Kclub 2/5, and i am 0/167, how this make a damn difference? Fact is you have 1% chance to get body, you can feel free to tell everyone in your PT "Hey look i am super lucky guy, suck on it! ima drop it to get new fresh one ahahaha!".

I don't mind in the slightest doing 100 kills for a body drop

Same here, and is what i focus on, not focusing if john smite that won 30x the same body and brag about it.

I know a lot of people say "Remember the old days!" and I do remember the old days. Salvage was one of my favourite events, and the drop rates on bodies is similar to salvage 35's , and to make matters worse you could only do salvage once a day.... but when we got a drop, it went to the person who needed it

-Assuming you did the 154 run with everyone.
-Assuming your leader never cheated you.
-Assuming you were online when they did salvage and body droped.
-(and i probably miss some factor)

Then yes, all that look nice on paper, but you know as me is not the case for everyone, i saw too many time that people got DENY to lot on salvage piece because:

-They was new player.
-They missed run / not enough LS point
-Leader made favor to a friend and bypassed you.
-Leader decided to sell your body for 25 million to a gil buyer to fund his relic.

In VW, well, all this can't happen, the great bonus is you have a chance to get it 1/1 and move on quick, but you also can be unlucky and have to do it 200 time like the old salvage, but no matter what, you in control of your drop and no one will remove you the reward.

I didnt ever end up with two Ares's Body's because a random number generator said so.

Feel lucky you had a great leader or joined LS when they formed and not be at the bottom list of LS priority.

Though the drop rates are similiar to old events, it just feels like a kick in the teeth to hear about every other player getting their tenth piece you want.

100% agree, but this is nothing new, after doing HNM 1year long, and saw my great leader take Neptunal Abjuration: Legs in front of me, when i have Mandau and Cursed -1 [that was 16m worth], i don't need to say it turned me off and called all his LS bullshit, wait did i forget to say what job that douchbag had? oh yes, well he had WHM, and BRD only.

FACT is he made the LS 1 year before i joined, so it was more logic to give N.leg to his BRD, fuck the mandau guy that saved his point on every drop for 1 year long. I rather do VW 25x per day for 8 day max to get what i want thanks.

[Camiie]

The old HNM drop system was a poop sandwich. The new VW system is a glass full of spit. One may be less disgusting than the other, but you'd have to be a very messed person up to want either one.

Does the VW loot distribution suck less than what we had in the past? Yeah. Does that make it good? No.