Seriously, VW loot system..come on.

[Elgorian]

This change SE proposed is not enough. I want drops to be 100% and ideally have the NM fights as optional.

lol^

Anyway, I know it's not likely but I see people talking about the fact that you most likely won't be able to trade "up" on items. There is always the possibility that X number of lower tickets could be converted into higher ranking gear say you get like 20 chakram's or something then you'd be eligible for turning in for a harness, I don't think they're gonna make it as easy as oh hey heres 6 chakrams I can get a harness now, though it's my guess that the bodies for all 3 T3 jeuno will be on the same ticket and getting a duplicate of any of the three will help out towards one of the others etc. Chakarm = lolAkvanheadband = Mantis Eye? something like that,

[Karbuncle]

This change SE proposed is not enough. I want drops to be 100% and ideally have the NM fights as optional.

Riddle me this Tinu, How exactly would this improve anything if the only thing my 6 Chakrams could turn into was another Chakram? So i can give my friend a Chakram? Unless he's been living in a hole he probably has 8 Chakram tokens himself too.

Its not to say I'm not ecstatic about this update, Its just if its implemented wrongly, It will literally change very little to absolutely nothing.

How often would you imagine someone with Coruscanti gets a second Coruscanti, What are the odds he's even continuing to fight Qilin after obtaining his first? I'm just trying to point out, People have the right to be skeptical, when if implemented incorrectly, this could change absolutely nothing.

Don't mistake cautiousness for ungratefulness amongst some of these replies. True, Some people here really are just whining because they want 100% Drops, but few of us are just cautious because of the wording.

[Elgorian]

Riddle me this Tinu, How exactly would this improve anything if the only thing my 6 Chakrams could turn into was another Chakram? So i can give my friend a Chakram? Unless he's been living in a hole he probably has 8 Chakram tokens himself too.

Love the signature,

In my previous post I touched on possiblities for this (if you hadn't read yet due to typing yours or something).

I can see it just taking more tickets of a lesser item to get a higher item.

Example: 20 Chakrams or 20 Headbands or 20 Mantis Eye = 1 Body


Also I believe that tiers will be linked

Example:

Akvan / Kaggen / Pil's Bodies will all = the same ticket type.


(this part I didn't really touch on) Also let's say you're spamming t6 to upgrade empys and you start getting multiplie ra/ex drops from those, considering they're all "higher" level gear you could in theorey turn those ra/ex items into lower ranking gear if you so desired.

Example: Ogier's Surcoat x6 = Toci's Harness or whatever lower item you're after.


These are just my thoughts on how things will work.... or how they should work... we'll see what happens eh?

[Karbuncle]

Love the signature,

In my previous post I touched on possiblities for this (if you hadn't read yet due to typing yours or something).

I can see it just taking more tickets of a lesser item to get a higher item.

Example: 20 Chakrams or 20 Headbands or 20 Mantis Eye = 1 Body


Also I believe that tiers will be linked

Example:

Akvan / Kaggen / Pil's Bodies will all = the same ticket type.


(this part I didn't really touch on) Also let's say you're spamming t6 to upgrade empys and you start getting multiplie ra/ex drops from those, considering they're all "higher" level gear you could in theorey turn those ra/ex items into lower ranking gear if you so desired.

Example: Ogier's Surcoat x6 = Toci's Harness or whatever lower item you're after.


These are just my thoughts on how things will work.... or how they should work... we'll see what happens eh?

See, that was my original idea/thought too. (I posted it here in this thread somewhere...)

That tickets may work in a "Tier" System, I.E

Eye = Tier 1
Belt = Tier 2
Body = Tier 3

And You get a "Tier 1 Ticket" for every Chakram, Only exchangeable for other Tier 1 tickets (Chakram, Gerra's Staff, Etc). Still, Without a way to exchange the lower tickets for higher tier tickets, It would change very little. I don't actually know anyone who's gotten 2 bodies. I know it happens, But quite rarely, Double for people getting Borealis or Coruscanti twice. Obtaining 6 Coruscanti Tickets, If the only way to get one was from a Owner getting a duplicate, Would be years of effort, Probably better spent spamming Qilins >_>

Still, I say, It is in improvement, But as the rest of my previous post states, If implemented incorrectly, It'll be like going from 1%, to 1.1%. While an improvement, It'd be a lot of wasting development time and potential for something negligible in usefulness.

[HimuraKenshyn]

Can it please be a KEY ITEM my inventory issues drive me insane as it is with all the silly abyssea seals I love the idea anything is better than what it is today but having to hold multiple items in our limited storage space already has me as a sad panda...

[detlef]

I pretty much think they're going to have it be a tiered system like you say. I wonder how much this helps, as you would only get tickets if you have the item in your possession already, and it sounds like you'd need multiples to get the item you want.

[Zinato]

Until, we get more news on tiers of ticket or how its catagorized (we know they are since camate said Item of the players choice meaning tickets can trade for multiple things in some way shape or form) we are mostly grabbing at straws. A note I wanted to make however, in terms of tickets only coming from items you duplicates of. I think it should be allowed for the first drop as well, not for the sake of "i don't want drop so sell it" as much as there is so much VW gear and much of it is on a mule. Additionally, this means you have to save all VW drops wether junk or not, and all on the character doing the run. (this doesn't even count ticket space either this is just the gear itself) Finally, if the DEVs decide to make a VW/Abyssea moogle slip Athos/ace's/serpentine etc. it means players wouldn't be able to make use of that either, having to retrieve all drops from a particular NM each run. Otherwise, I think the ticket idea is sound.

[Camate]

Hey everyone.

I followed up with the development team to get an answer as to whether or not you need to already possess the rare/ex item to obtain a ticket. They said that you will in fact need to have the item in your possession and they are not planning to make it so you can give a ticket to someone else when you could obtain the actual item.

Also, to clarify the original post; each piece of gear will have their own ticket (and I've amended the original post for clarity). I've also seen questions about "will this apply to Heavy Metal Plates, too?" and the answer is no, this is currently planned for equipment pieces only.

[Greatguardian]

Hey everyone.

I followed up with the development team to get an answer as to whether or not you need to already possess the rare/ex item to obtain a ticket. They said that you will in fact need to have the item in your possession and they are not planning to make it so you can give a ticket to someone else when you could obtain the actual item.

Also, to clarify the original post; each piece of gear will have their own ticket (and I've amended the original post for clarity). I've also seen questions about "will this apply to Heavy Metal Plates, too?" and the answer is no, this is currently planned for equipment pieces only.

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Wait just one minute.

So, basically, you're saying that you need 5~6 people with Coruscantis to obtain a second Coruscanti in order to pool the tickets necessary to trade in for a single Coruscanti?

That is to say, the bodies and daggers are still lost, but only 83% lost instead of 100% lost? That's assuming if and only if the item is already possessed by the mule/character in question?

The latter clause is the real kicker in all of this. They've very explicitly said no (so much so that it had to be mentioned twice). I don't care to argue about it. I'm just tired.

I only do Voidwatch in the first place because I enjoy killing things with friends. I don't expect it to be rewarding. Apparently, that isn't really going to change as much as I'd hoped. Oh well.

[Arcari]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Wait just one minute.

So, basically, you're saying that you need 5~6 people with Coruscantis to obtain a second Coruscanti in order to pool the tickets necessary to trade in for a single Coruscanti?

That is to say, the bodies and daggers are still lost, but only 83% lost instead of 100% lost? That's assuming if and only if the item is already possessed by the mule/character in question?

The latter clause is the real kicker in all of this. They've very explicitly said no (so much so that it had to be mentioned twice). I don't care to argue about it. I'm just tired.

I only do Voidwatch in the first place because I enjoy killing things with friends. I don't expect it to be rewarding. Apparently, that isn't really going to change as much as I'd hoped. Oh well.

SE couldn't resist the Jackass Genie call, it seems.

Thanks for the clarification Camate.