Seriously, VW loot system..come on.

[Karbuncle]

The Tickets will be tradable and sellable.

They're not going to hand you the item on a silver platter. If you can't get the items you want, Buy the Tickets. People won't hoard Tickets for items they don't want or need. Some may do it just for the gil.

For instance, i Can see T3 Jeuno Path Tickets being worth a good price. There will be a supply of them.

IDK, Theres so much positive about this coming up that i can't find a negative.

[Quetzacoatl]

The Tickets will be tradable and sellable.

This is why I don't like this update. Because it gives an incentive to sell these tickets instead of giving them to your LS members who need the gear they need to progress in the game. Even if you restrict it from being Bazaar'd, people will still give you a price tag via trade anyhow.

It's kind of like saying, "oh hey! I have an idea to fix this! but only if these guys can also have the choice of completely fucking you over too."

Sorry SE, not impressed.

[SpankWustler]

This is why I don't like this update. Because it gives an incentive to sell these tickets instead of giving them to your LS members who need the gear they need to progress in the game. Even if you restrict it from being Bazaar'd, people will still give you a price tag via trade anyhow.

It's kind of like saying, "oh hey! I have an idea to fix this! but only if these guys can also have the choice of completely fucking you over too."

Sorry SE, not impressed.

I suspect the tickets can simply be placed in a bazaar since the world "sell" was used outright, so you have a point.

However, effectively buying an item is still a huge step up over going 0/192 and not having the item at all.

I'd compare this change to going from a house on fire to a house with a bad air conditioning unit.

[Quetzacoatl]

I suspect the tickets can simply be placed in a bazaar since the world "sell" was used outright, so you have a point.

However, effectively buying an item is still a huge step up over going 0/192 and not having the item at all.

I'd compare this change to going from a house on fire to a house with a bad air conditioning unit.

I much rather view it as from a house on fire to a house flooded with too much water trying to douse the flames (don't ask me how that happened), but that's just me.

I think SE also recognized old-school HNMLS needs, like the days that the one last straggler needing an ebody isn't getting an ebody, because everyone else has an ebody now, and they can make some awesome cha-ching from those ebodies at the expense of their straggler. Who probably is contemplating making a free deal with a rival crack dealer who happens to be their friend from the dunes. These Tickets are taking those memories and pumping the nostalgia factor up to over 9000.

[Nynja]

This is why I don't like this update. Because it gives an incentive to sell these tickets instead of giving them to your LS members who need the gear they need to progress in the game. Even if you restrict it from being Bazaar'd, people will still give you a price tag via trade anyhow.

Sounds like your LS members have a problem with each other

[Quetzacoatl]

Sounds like your LS members have a problem with each other

Nah, my current LS is awesome. I used to be in an LS like that though. :X

Yes, people can be greedy mofos and you would be naive to not at least entertain the thought that anyone could still be missing a Toci's, but they would still have to do their own VW runs without their shell. All because no one will lend out some tickets to help them out.

Sorry for being a negative nancy, but I find making these tickets able to be sold outside your ls or circle of friends is counterproductive.

[Arcon]

This is why I don't like this update. Because it gives an incentive to sell these tickets instead of giving them to your LS members who need the gear they need to progress in the game. Even if you restrict it from being Bazaar'd, people will still give you a price tag via trade anyhow.

That's your problem. If you play with douchebags, you'll get screwed over. Which, however, allows you to also be a douchebag and sell your crap as well, then from the money you obtain get whatever you want, since the tickets buyable. This system still has some issues, but I don't see how this is one of them. In fact, I'd count it as an advantage, since you don't have to rely on your LS mates getting a drop, but instead can just buy it from other sources.

[Nightfyre]

One thing I would appreciate some clarification on: how might the "different types of tickets" work? I understand it's all very tentative right now but whatever information you can give would be great. I'm hoping that the ticket types are fairly broad (say, based the tier from which they drop, possibly rarity of drop but I think this will lead to issues unless you can directly exchange more common tickets for a smaller number of rarer tickets) to avoid issues where tickets that could be turned in for a fairly niche item will be extremely scarce because of the lack of demand for items from certain NMs.

Also, it would be great if we could turn in items we already have for tickets too. I've got a few Voidwatch items sitting in storage that I'll likely never use, converting them into something of more value to me would be nice.

[Dreamin]

Before everyone gets overly too happy, remember SE's proposed change only will give you a ticket if you destroy a ra/ex item from chest. Which still doesn't solves the underlying problem for those of us that has absolutely no luck (looking at 0/250+ on qilin, 0/250+ on pil, and 0/150+ on Kaggen). A point system or maybe let those that completely destroy the chest also gets a ticket would help resolve this last bit of issue for those of us who has absolutely zero luck at these ra/re drop. And Yes to 1 ticket type per NM or path/chapter would help eliminate a lot of additional storage requirements too (or make them into KIs).

[Maurauc]

As far as I can tell, it just meant things like items from Kaggen will be put onto one ticket, and you could trade one item 6 times and get the other. Still an improvement, but keeps the personal reward, which is what they wanted.