Seriously, VW loot system..come on.

[Cream_Soda]

Good thing I've put off WoTG for so long. Time to catch up on the storyline and give me something that'll actually be worth my time to do.

[Zinato]

What I've got from your posts is that the base is being beaten in the crotch with a pipe.

Not as bad as Gamestop.

[Falseliberty]

mmmm i do have 1 plea thru all this and its not really a VW thing more a FFXI thing. Something thats not tanaka's fault for a change.

people keep mentioning this skeleton crew dev team is working with, why? dont this game still have like 200k subcriptions at least atm? by far still one of there biggest money makers why the hell is SE treating long time paying customers like this.

for the love of fucking god HIRE MORE GODDAM PEOPLE

[blowfin]

Perhaps "destroying nothing" is an important step to reaching the final stages of enlightenment and this may help people reincarnate to a higher plane. My very subtle mind looks forward to this addition.

Ah yes, we are missing the deep phliosophical implications of voidwatch. I think the secret to dividing by zero may also be hidden inside there somewhere.

[Alderin]

I will be brutally honest... The thought of kaggen makes me bash my head against a wall. It is NOT fun when the alliance leader (at the moment myself), has done over 500x Kaggens and still not seen a body.. While I have witnessed first hand people going 1/4 on body drop rate.

The alliance leader / popper needs some form of higher reward system - as the effort that they have put into putting together a run far exceeds any player's participation in the actual fight itself.

SE you are ignoring the fact that it potentially takes at minimum of 30mins to 1hr just to get enough people for a single VW run. If that isn't deserving of a higher drop rate for alliance leader / popper then I don't know what is.

The drop system on the legendary bodies at the moment is at best completely random, and is unfair to those of us who put in the extra effort to shout for these runs. I for one have just about given up.


*edit* I will be one to say "destroying" the rare/ex items will be a waste of dev team time. I will speak for a lot of us here - most of us do not bother getting the logs/ores/ingots out of the chest. This will not decrease the time the chest hangs around.

[Nynja]

From an empoyers pov of course, you will work for minimum wage and feel lucky that you got that job. The employer doesn't care if you're happy.

Except in my previous analogy, the employer would be replaced with "Square Enix" and you represents the playerbase.

glad you're understanding it.

people keep mentioning this skeleton crew dev team is working with, why? dont this game still have like 200k subcriptions at least atm? by far still one of there biggest money makers why the hell is SE treating long time paying customers like this.

Because they're still busy trying to save FFXIV

[Insaniac]

I will be brutally honest... The thought of kaggen makes me bash my head against a wall. It is NOT fun when the alliance leader (at the moment myself), has done over 500x Kaggens and still not seen a body.. While I have witnessed first hand people going 1/4 on body drop rate.

The alliance leader / popper needs some form of higher reward system - as the effort that they have put into putting together a run far exceeds any player's participation in the actual fight itself.

SE you are ignoring the fact that it potentially takes at minimum of 30mins to 1hr just to get enough people for a single VW run. If that isn't deserving of a higher drop rate for alliance leader / popper then I don't know what is.

The drop system on the legendary bodies at the moment is at best completely random, and is unfair to those of us who put in the extra effort to shout for these runs. I for one have just about given up.


*edit* I will be one to say "destroying" the rare/ex items will be a waste of dev team time. I will speak for a lot of us here - most of us do not bother getting the logs/ores/ingots out of the chest. This will not decrease the time the chest hangs around.

While I understand your frustration the answer is not better drop rates for the popper. It's a progression system where someone willing to put the effort into setting up runs every day will be rewarded with 100% certainty after a fair amount of time. Higher drop rates for the popper would just result in 150 separate VW shouts with no one willing to join your group and have a lower drop rate than you. Not to mention the ninja pops =).

[Alderin]

While I understand your frustration the answer is not better drop rates for the popper. It's a progression system where someone willing to put the effort into setting up runs every day will be rewarded with 100% certainty after a fair amount of time. Higher drop rates for the popper would just result in 150 separate VW shouts with no one willing to join your group and have a lower drop rate than you. Not to mention the ninja pops =).

I never said that.

I believe that effort does not equal reward in this case. It goes both ways - 95% of the server won't shout and will wait for the 2 same people on the whole server to make a VW group so they don't have to put in any effort to reap the rewards.

The alliance leader / popper should receive an ENHANCED drop rate or some form of beneficial reward otherwise once these 1 or 2 people finally get the body or get sick of organising a group (like I am about to be) - that NM will be dead along with the T4 home nations.

But yes damn right I think that the people that are setting up these groups should have a 100% certainty after enough times.. Going on 500+ Kaggens (most of which I have set up myself) while others get it in a couple of runs is just beyond rediculous.

Last run, a BLU who had no jobs levelled that could equip this - and was his first 2x Kaggen runs got the body... How is that balance?

[Dragoy]

I'm only glad I still haven't wasted my time with this.

There's just too much /random; it's one of the most annoying things to actually get rare loot, but it's what you already have, or don't need, and/or can't even give to your stranger!
Random is not fun, even if it may occasionally be funny.

I tried Salvage for the first time yesterday, and I think I would rather collect 30,000 pieces of Alexandrite, even if it took 400-600 days (earth-time). And that is beyond insane, but still, it seems more fun than this.

Seriously.

>.>
<.<
v.v

As a side-note, no, I don't think Mythics or Relics are worth in any way, any of what they require, at all, even remotely.
So yeah, Voidwatch...

/sigh

[Cahlum]

Devs need to understand that their vision of the game should have ended in 2004, players vision is far more important. If we don't like something, and their are countless threads on this forum alone all echoing the same thing, change the retarded loot system, then they need to change it asap.

This is a PR disaster for them but alas they won't listen to anything except subscriber numbers dropping. Perhaps after Q2 figures are in they'll fire tanaka again.