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  1. #171
    Player Cahlum's Avatar
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    So basically the same old usual bullshit from SE? When will you listen to your playerbase? I have lost count of how many qilins I have done trying to get fajin boots and still they have not dropped to me, yet everyone else in my shell has got them 2-3 times. Maybe in a few months I may get them, then I can finally move onto other VW NMs >.>.

    Now you are going to nerf fanatics and fools making the fights even slower and more tedious to kill each NM. I wonder if the devs even read this.
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  2. #172
    Player FrankReynolds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cahlum View Post
    I wonder if the devs even read this.
    It actually sounds like they do read this. They don't use the feedback the way we would have hoped for though.

    They read that:
    • People think the mobs are too easy
    • New people have trouble getting groups for the lower tier runs
    • People who have been at it a while hate the drop system, but they are soooo addicted that they burn through all their cruor / stones
    So it seems the devs read that and decided:
    • to make everything harder
    • force people who have been at it for a while to help new people get into it by rewarding them with cruor, so that new people can be frustrated with the drop system too
    • all while keeping the same shitty drop system that keeps people stuck doing it.

    The devs have an uncanny skill when it comes to missing the point.
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  3. #173
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    Perhaps it is punishment for what they can consider compaining. It reminds me of a Star wars robot chicken skit involving Darth Vader and Lando. Ill let anyone curious look it up so there is no suspicion of a troll link.
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  4. #174
    Player Anewie's Avatar
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    sig pretty much sums up my feelings on the devs response...

    do not want.
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  5. #175
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    I HAVE ALTERED THE DEAL. PRAY I DON'T ALTER IT ANY FURTHER.
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  6. #176
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    There was something I forget to mention before. The climbs aren't entirely unwanted now, several of the NMs drop great/valuable items, the catch? No one is willing to spend 100 stones or even a few doing a full climb for a drop that doesn't come even close to Bodys. (and also doing a t1-t4 worth of stones simply for a single kill of whichever mob is useful, not always appealing) 1/100 for tefnut wand (buyable) or 1/100 Heka, HQ dagger or magna gauntlets (buyable) oh the choices. (and they were even so kind as to put that fact in stone drop rates are the same in ALL chapters)

    Watch this be read as "please make Tefnut r/x so i have a reason to help others get wins" (FYI that is not what is means)
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  7. #177
    Player Runespider's Avatar
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    I am fairly sure all I got from that response is, Players are obtaining drops faster then we anticipated we will be making adjustments to reduce the rate the rare items drop.
    Yeah the drop system is horrible but a lot of people are still getting top tier drops too quick, more than they planned. Next update might just kill VW completely, it's already pretty horrible.

    VW is actualy quite a success even though the drop rates are horrible, as such it makes sense to decrease drop rates asap to keep people doing it long term.

    Not a suprise with this current dev team but still kinda sad. Oh well.
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  8. #178
    Player Anewie's Avatar
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    anyone who compares this to kings needs to cancel their account, burn their xi discs and toss their pc/ps3/xbox out the window.

    VW is a cakewalk compared to what aspid,nid,kb were in 2005...
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  9. #179
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    Yeah the drop system is horrible but a lot of people are still getting top tier drops too quick, more than they planned. Next update might just kill VW completely, it's already pretty horrible.

    VW is actualy quite a success even though the drop rates are horrible, as such it makes sense to decrease drop rates asap to keep people doing it long term.

    Not a suprise with this current dev team but still kinda sad. Oh well.
    You live in a city situated on an island. If you want to drive off the island for whatever reason, theres only one bridge off the island. The bridge has one lane both ways. People complain about possibly expanding the bridge to have 3 lanes both ways, or to add a secondary bridge that leads to another part off the island. City says "no"...
    Everyone is clearly upset, because they get stuck on this bridge for over an hour, but its the only way to get their cars out of the city. Because the bridge is being used, its a success?
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  10. #180
    Player FrankReynolds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nynja View Post
    You live in a city situated on an island. If you want to drive off the island for whatever reason, theres only one bridge off the island. The bridge has one lane both ways. People complain about possibly expanding the bridge to have 3 lanes both ways, or to add a secondary bridge that leads to another part off the island. City says "no"...
    Everyone is clearly upset, because they get stuck on this bridge for over an hour, but its the only way to get their cars out of the city. Because the bridge is being used, its a success?
    Writing this from my laptop while sitting in commute traffic on a bridge right now. This is not a success :/
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