Could S-E make Walk of Echoes Cross-World server?

[Akutenshi]

I don't think cross server for WoE is really going to happen. It's not a bad idea and it most likely would be a step in the right direction, but it's not going to happen. It takes a lot of work to make existing servers connect with each other, troubleshoot issues with doing that, and keeping up stability. It would be somewhat a different story if they implemented things like this when the servers launched, but they didn't and who knows how well SE has kept up and modified their server architecture over the years.

I think Insaniac has a great point. There's really nothing of value in WoE anymore and I feel the new merit weaponskills killed what little reason to do them. The drops are too random and the times when people are in them are too sporadic to actually be able to do them.

The only time I do WoE is prime JP time. I do support the idea of making the confluxes scale with the number of people in them. Say, let people go into them and be like a loading zone like limbus. After a time limit let people build up and after the time limit scale the difficulty of the conflux. This way either you could go in with a big group or just random people and still be able to do whatever flux you want. Maybe make the item drops scale with difficulty as well.

On the other hand, SE gave us the tools and means to do the confluxes, it's all on us how to actually do them. They weren't made to be solo and they were made for big groups. How we get those groups is all on us. How do you get anything else done in FFXI? you either shout or make an LS. While I really like the scaling idea, I'm not to optimistic that they would do that. What they should do in the first step is make the drops more worth while. Make the fluxes actually drop things needed. AF seals, elemental stones, and better drops besides crappy logs and things not even worth NPCing. They should increase the rate of coin drops. Now that we can get new weapon skills in like two days worth of meriting there really isn't any reason to do WoE for a random coin drop that you might never see. The time I spent in WoE waiting for a coin drop I could of gotten enough merits to unlock a comparable weapon skill.

[svengalis]

Although the once a day limit is what kept people doing it for so long after the recent update to the coin drops its also the reason people don't do woe.

[Eri]

Although the once a day limit is what kept people doing it for so long after the recent update to the coin drops its also the reason people don't do woe.

Friend did 30 Coins in 2 Weeks spamming #7....
He wasn't playing a lot too. Ppl are lazy thats about it. Ok maybe he got lucky :P
I took like a few months when it was 80-85?

Point is tho. If ppl really wanted thr ws they would just go.
WoE is fun. The Weapons need to be changed so ppl think its worth it.
Hell if its a Miniaftermath or Miniafterglow by 99.
Ppl would considder it worth their time maybe.

[Insaniac]

If the weapons become "worth it" dice will be 500k and you would be lucky to find 100 dice in bazaars in 3 months. The drop rate on dice is so atrociously low farming enough for 1 weapon let alone 3-5 is completely unrealistic. That's just for the 95 the 99 requires 150 of an item with an equally atrocious drop rate. There's really no justifiable reason for anyone to do WoE past their 90 because most of the gear that never drops in the first place is shit and worthless and getting your own dice/luminal whosits is unrealistic. Even at 100% drop rate you would be looking at a minimum of 250 hours for 1 weapon. You could solo 2 relics or a Mythic in that time or take your emp to level 95. Unfortunately their drop rate is probably more like 10%. There needs to be a good reason to do the event repeatedly like 100% drop rates on dice with a 20% chance at a pouch or they could add HMPs or good R/E gear with decent drop rates.

[Insaniac]

Another option would be adding mediocre R/E gear that you can start magian trials on that require either WoE exp or flux clears. And lots of them.

[BigPapaBlueJay]

If the weapons become "worth it" dice will be 500k and you would be lucky to find 100 dice in bazaars in 3 months. The drop rate on dice is so atrociously low farming enough for 1 weapon let alone 3-5 is completely unrealistic. That's just for the 95 the 99 requires 150 of an item with an equally atrocious drop rate. There's really no justifiable reason for anyone to do WoE past their 90 because most of the gear that never drops in the first place is shit and worthless and getting your own dice/luminal whosits is unrealistic. Even at 100% drop rate you would be looking at a minimum of 250 hours for 1 weapon. You could solo 2 relics or a Mythic in that time or take your emp to level 95. Unfortunately their drop rate is probably more like 10%. There needs to be a good reason to do the event repeatedly like 100% drop rates on dice with a 20% chance at a pouch or they could add HMPs or good R/E gear with decent drop rates.

It doesn't take that long to upgrade the weapons; not everyone does WoE for upgrades, some just sell the items off. It took me about 2 weeks to obtain 500 dice via bazaar. I agree though, bumping singles up to 100% would help stimulate attendance, especially if there was some sort of pouch possible.

[Ravenmore]

It doesn't take that long to upgrade the weapons; not everyone does WoE for upgrades, some just sell the items off. It took me about 2 weeks to obtain 500 dice via bazaar. I agree though, bumping singles up to 100% would help stimulate attendance, especially if there was some sort of pouch possible.

These epople are also under the false reasoning that they are making more gil faster. Unless they nerf blinkers and gear/weapon npcing they are wasting their time making less gil. They still might get lucky but then they might go 20 or 30 with out getting another hit so they now can divide that large hit over the 30 hours they had to wait to get another one.

[Insaniac]

When was this? Because I haven't seen more than 1 or 2 Dice per day in all the bazaars on our server combined for months and they are no less than 200k.

[Camiie]

Friend did 30 Coins in 2 Weeks spamming #7....
He wasn't playing a lot too. Ppl are lazy thats about it. Ok maybe he got lucky :P
I took like a few months when it was 80-85?

Yeah, he got lucky to get what he needed that quickly. It certainly wasn't my experience.

Point is tho. If ppl really wanted thr ws they would just go.
WoE is fun. The Weapons need to be changed so ppl think its worth it.
Hell if its a Miniaftermath or Miniafterglow by 99.
Ppl would considder it worth their time maybe.

In a game that's always been riddled with time sinks, the last thing people want to do is use their time inefficiently. That's the problem with WoE. For most people it simply isn't worth the time investment. It might be worth it to go if there's a lot of random people there already, but it's not worth it to build a LS for. It might be fun, but not as fun as going to Abyssea. There might be things there that would be nice to have, but there are nicer things elsewhere or those nice things from WoE can be obtained in other, more efficient ways.