Ukko's on test server?

[Insaniac]

If there is a large gap between war and other jobs, which there is now, why take any other DD in an event where you have support? It doesn't matter in Voidwatch if other jobs have hate shedding, stun, etc, when ample curing exists. The event is "How many Ukkon wars do you have for this NM?" If you tell me you haven't heard that said before I won't believe you.

First of all, do you even do voidwatch? Second, What Saevel said. 3rd, these amazing Ukon WARs that put out 5-6k damage on T3s at 95 don't grow on trees. Most Ukon WARs have average or slightly above average gear like myself and never even come close to doing 6k on things like Pil or Qilin. So, I don't know how you are going to fill an alliance with WARs capable of 6k damage. My Rhongoon rapes btw and an alliance full of me would easily kill faster than an alliance of average Ukon WARs.

[Siiri]

First of all, do you even do voidwatch? Second, What Saevel said. 3rd, these amazing Ukon WARs that put out 5-6k damage on T3s at 95 don't grow on trees. Most Ukon WARs have average or slightly above average gear like myself and never even come close to doing 6k on things like Pil or Qilin. So, I don't know how you are going to fill an alliance with WARs capable of 6k damage. My Rhongoon rapes btw and an alliance full of me would easily kill faster than an alliance of average Ukon WARs.

Yeah, I do voidwatch. I have helped organize a group that has most clears, and I have done the rest in pickups. You need other jobs for procs, but when it comes to win time the Ukkon wars push the Ohsh*t button with their 5k weaponskills and it is over. If you ever answer pickups they always ask, "how many ukon wars we have?" You can fill in proc jobs no problem, they are trash in comparison. I think a lot of other DDs want to be more than proc trash in comparision to the great almighty overpowered Ukon wars. Some of us like other jobs than war. War bores the ever living crap out of me.

[Insaniac]

Yeah, I do voidwatch. I have helped organize a group that has most clears, and I have done the rest in pickups. You need other jobs for procs, but when it comes to win time the Ukkon wars push the Ohsh*t button with their 5k weaponskills and it is over. If you ever answer pickups they always ask, "how many ukon wars we have?" You can fill in proc jobs no problem, they are trash in comparison. I think a lot of other DDs want to be more than proc trash in comparision to the great almighty overpowered Ukon wars. Some of us like other jobs than war. War bores the ever living crap out of me.

I've won dozens of level 95 VWs with 1 Ukon in 10 minutes or less. Any Relic/Emp/Mythic DD rips these things apart as long as you keep procing. I think you, like a ton of people, have an inflated idea of the power of an Ukon. They don't spam 5k WSs they spam 2k-3k WSs and occasionally blast out a beast. Yes Ukon WARs were easily #1 in DD power but it wasn't by some outrageous margin. Maybe a very slight nerf to the WS was in order but not a 15% crit rate cut.

[Siiri]

I've won dozens of level 95 VWs with 1 Ukon in 10 minutes or less. Any Relic/Emp/Mythic DD rips these things apart as long as you keep procing. I think you, like a ton of people, have an inflated idea of the power of an Ukon. They don't spam 5k WSs they spam 2k-3k WSs and occasionally blast out a beast. Yes Ukon WARs were easily #1 in DD power but it wasn't by some outrageous margin. Maybe a very slight nerf to the WS was in order but not a 15% crit rate cut.

I am sure there is some truth in this. The reason the perception is out there though is mostly through players smack talk, posted parses, memes like "should have been a ukon" on the BG finished emp. thread. Also linkshell leaders disbanding at Qilin when the Ukon war leaves, shouting that they seeking a war only, etc. I believe a parse was shown recently where the Ukon war did 80% more damage than anyone else, the damage calculator that people use had war doing 50% more damage over drk a while ago, etc etc. Apparently someone in charge at SE had the same perception with this nerf.

I do understand though that nerfs are not the way to go. It's stupid to do it after a year, should have been adjusted within a couple weeks of coming out, or other jobs brought up a bit in this past year. SE had numerous chances to even things out and all they did was buff the hell out of SAM, like the old days. This company has the worst sense of balance.

[Insaniac]

I am sure there is some truth in this. The reason the perception is out there though is mostly through players smack talk, posted parses, memes like "should have been a ukon" on the BG finished emp. thread. Also linkshell leaders disbanding at Qilin when the Ukon war leaves, shouting that they seeking a war only, etc. I believe a parse was shown recently where the Ukon war did 80% more damage than anyone else, the damage calculator that people use had war doing 50% more damage over drk a while ago, etc etc. Apparently someone in charge at SE had the same perception with this nerf.

I do understand though that nerfs are not the way to go. It's stupid to do it after a year, should have been adjusted within a couple weeks of coming out, or other jobs brought up a bit in this past year. SE had numerous chances to even things out and all they did was buff the hell out of SAM, like the old days. This company has the worst sense of balance.

People post those SSs and parses because they are extreme examples. If that WAR won by 80% it's because he didn't have to proc anything and everyone else did or that WAR was amazing and everyone else in the alliance was seriously terrible.