BST ATMA Discussion

[Xilk]

i dont have DC, RR or MC atm but until i have them im using Sea daughter (so i can spam Rampage), Gnarled Horn (agility up like a MOFO) and Stout Arm (Strength, Yes Please!).

I would recommend VV over Sea daughter easily. Regain is only 2/tic, but you get a huge STR boost and another 10% double attack. Pet tp moves are wondeful useful, but the recast timer is much more of a limitation than tp gain. Also, the slow effect is wretched to our damage. We already cannot stack much haste on pets, adding slow hurts their main source of damage: normal melee.

The lack of razed ruins for damage dealing is... devastating. You and your pet both do much much more damage w/ rr atma. I've no idea what Tsukino is trying to say w/ that quote:

"Why doesn't my RR atma effect my pets?"

I just assume he's trolling in a 1/2 coherent way...

RR boosts bst perhaps more than other jobs. it boosts both main and pet damage. Crit hits seem to boost pet pdif more than 1.0 (which is how much it boosts players, it seems closer to 2.0 for pets). The crit hit rate from RR atma on pet alone will boost most pets up to around 60% crit hit rate. The 30% boost in crit damage stacks w/ the 8% from crit attack bonus that pretty much all 75+ pets have (I haven't confirmed for merle, don't think merle gets it as mnk)

[Mishta]

While servers have been down i've been thinking if Glavoid can be solo'd by bst. earthwyrm, dg and idk the 3rd atma i'd use. I know healing Glav is bad, and getting pet off him during tp would be a pain in the butt, so i figured jus roll with it and keep pet on him. I'm thinking it can be done. Ducal guard is such a sweet atma, if dipper can with stand Disgorge... idk jus a thought. What do you guys think?

[longbow71]

I always use rr gnarled horn and apoc for triple attack

[Behemuthxero]

I just finished up my 50 Glavoid shells right before the servers went down. Go go ukon~ I had a friend bst tank while I was on THF for TH. The Atmas used were DG + Earth Wyrm + Heavens. This resulted in 0 dmg taken from physical attacks and made his 2 hours useless. Also, disgorge usually hit for 0 and gorge damage was highly resisted, usually below 300. The earth resistance on top of the -DT bonuses made Stonega IV and Quake II damage average about 200-500 damage with spikes around 700. All in all glavoid simply could not do enough dmg to the pet to be a threat. However, constantly using heel to take pet off during TP moves, plus the ridiculous amount of SS it seems to get after every single TP move means a solo glavoid would simply take too long. I am not certain you could pull it off in 120 minutes.

Bringing a second DD to kill, as we did, made things go very fast, relatively speaking, getting a kill with 2 or 3 (sometimes a rng friend came to help). We almost never had a curative job like rdm or whm with us. TBH though, I usually necroed the fight on thief dying after 3k Rudra's storm every minute. This wasn't a big deal though because it always gave enough EXP to make the loss non-existent.

If I were going to solo the fight I would drop a DT atma, prob heavens, and replace it with RR. Sure you will take more dmg but we fought it that way prior to getting Earth Worm atma and would use only 5-6 pet foods a fight (zeta). The SS is a really big deal and RR will help break it down. If you dont get it off it will disgorge again and heal, w/o you ever doing dmg to it, and reset SS. Again, I still don't see it being worth it, unless you absolutely don't have anyone to help (which in that case id /sh for "zone boss glavoid kill" and have ppl help that way)

[Mishta]

I just finished up my 50 Glavoid shells right before the servers went down. Go go ukon~ I had a friend bst tank while I was on THF for TH. The Atmas used were DG + Earth Wyrm + Heavens. This resulted in 0 dmg taken from physical attacks and made his 2 hours useless. Also, disgorge usually hit for 0 and gorge damage was highly resisted, usually below 300. The earth resistance on top of the -DT bonuses made Stonega IV and Quake II damage average about 200-500 damage with spikes around 700. All in all glavoid simply could not do enough dmg to the pet to be a threat. However, constantly using heel to take pet off during TP moves, plus the ridiculous amount of SS it seems to get after every single TP move means a solo glavoid would simply take too long. I am not certain you could pull it off in 120 minutes.

Bringing a second DD to kill, as we did, made things go very fast, relatively speaking, getting a kill with 2 or 3 (sometimes a rng friend came to help). We almost never had a curative job like rdm or whm with us. TBH though, I usually necroed the fight on thief dying after 3k Rudra's storm every minute. This wasn't a big deal though because it always gave enough EXP to make the loss non-existent.

If I were going to solo the fight I would drop a DT atma, prob heavens, and replace it with RR. Sure you will take more dmg but we fought it that way prior to getting Earth Worm atma and would use only 5-6 pet foods a fight (zeta). The SS is a really big deal and RR will help break it down. If you dont get it off it will disgorge again and heal, w/o you ever doing dmg to it, and reset SS. Again, I still don't see it being worth it, unless you absolutely don't have anyone to help (which in that case id /sh for "zone boss glavoid kill" and have ppl help that way)

I assuming u guys used dipper. Thanx for the info

[Gotterdammerung]

I like RR VV Apoc with Lucky Lulush for parties. 1k-1600 footkicks are fun.

For solo i switch jugs and atmas often to fit what NM i am fighting.

[Glamdring]

not having razed ruins, or gnarled horn yet, what I use as a BASE Atma set is Voracious Violet, Aquatic Ardor and Mounted Champion. Note that I said base-as in XP party, I vary these widely based on the mob we are targeting if NM hunting and also if I will be meleeing or something. cloak and Dagger get some love, Stout Arm, Despot, even the one that boosts drain/aspir at times. Depending on my role, I may sub in ambition if I need MP or pulling speed. Despot is especially useful when I bst/brd for threnody procs.

[Behemuthxero]

I didn't use dipper. I don't use her much for w/e reason. Unless i need large wind resistance. I used Audacious Anna. Tail blow is about 80% or so effective at stunning Glavoid's Stonega IV and Quake II. She is waaay cheaper to make and has more HP =D

[Yopop]

I will use SD when I'm using a pet like the eft to spam stun

I got the ferine earring that way, I used eft because I got tired of the magic dmg

SD does so i can spam pet tp moves all the time