Thank you for Stardiver!

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A little piece of information which has come to light is that the "Elemental weapon skill damage increases depending on day" on Mekira Oto head piece does not apply to just magical WS's. It applies to Physical WS's on the day their elements are. So Stardiver being Transfixion and Gravition, we get the boost from it on Earth / Dark / Light day (37% of the time!), along with the 25 attack, 15 str~ and the boost is 0.1ftp.... so on Stardiver 0.4.... which makes it pretty amazing. Just did some Pil on Darksday, and was hitting an easy average of 2k, with highs of 3.5k

[Ophannus]

That property was known back in 2006 with Assault Point weapons like this:

but still, good work.

[Aana]

Its gone on for a few pages, but if im not mistaken, ALL this comparison motenten is talking about started using abyssea and Apoc. Of course str lance will compete better when you give it a full 15% triple while OAT get a super watered down version.

Without free multi-hit atmas (ie anywhere but abyssea) OAT has a rather huge advantage over a non-multi hit weapon. This is also how drg pulls way ahead vs war and sam. They simply dont have access to the powerful magian weapons, namely OAT lance.

Take the comparisons outside abyssea and there is simply no contest between OAT and anything but Ryu.

Also, Drakes in perfect gear with any of the top 3 damage lances (relic/mythic/empy) will BARELY edge out stardiver with perfect gear for both (notable exception being Ryu with the 15% drakes boost, soon to be 30% at 99 turns that 'edge' into a landslide). However, the lowest damage lances (OAT) stardiver pulls ahead because of the mods making up more of the damage on lower base D weapons.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Dps 135 isn't in abyssea. If it is quit w/e dd job you're on.

[Motenten]

Its gone on for a few pages, but if im not mistaken, ALL this comparison motenten is talking about started using abyssea and Apoc. Of course str lance will compete better when you give it a full 15% triple while OAT get a super watered down version.

Without free multi-hit atmas (ie anywhere but abyssea) OAT has a rather huge advantage over a non-multi hit weapon. This is also how drg pulls way ahead vs war and sam. They simply dont have access to the powerful magian weapons, namely OAT lance.

Take the comparisons outside abyssea and there is simply no contest between OAT and anything but Ryu.

Also, Drakes in perfect gear with any of the top 3 damage lances (relic/mythic/empy) will BARELY edge out stardiver with perfect gear for both (notable exception being Ryu with the 15% drakes boost, soon to be 30% at 99 turns that 'edge' into a landslide). However, the lowest damage lances (OAT) stardiver pulls ahead because of the mods making up more of the damage on lower base D weapons.

No, none of the comparisons are in Abyssea; I'm pretty sure that was stated early on. Crit weaponskills rule in Abyssea, so there's no real point in comparing Stardiver builds there other than academic interest (or you're on sam).

Also, feel free to provide the 'perfect' gear sets for the respective builds (including jumps) and I'll look into how they compare.

[brayen]

I am curious, what would be an ideal set up for stardiver? off the top of my head i had something in mind like the following:

str/pole/_/Threw
oto+1/gorget/moonshade/brutal
ace's/af3/str/str
ath/ele belt/avant+1/heca+1

trying to think of a non-augmented feet option but nothing springs to mind(that is better) ; ;

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Thats pretty much exactly what Ive been aiming for, only difference is I'm using Ares's Body.

DRG really has a poor choice of WS feet, I got +3 str +3attack augment on Heca Feet+1 and decided it was good enough.

http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/245693 Current build I'm aiming for, STR polearm.

Edit - Fixed link!

[Neisan_Quetz]

Set is private/you linked it incorrectly. For those who can't get augmented Heca+1 you can hope Gigantes boots show up on AH.

[frozenbear]

I have done a stardiver on 5 separate occasions that clocked in at < 1k,
and although i have done more than one that came in at > 2k and one that hit 2984 I am still a bit disspointed in a ws that i spent 1 MILLION experience points on. 800 damage is not an acceptable min damage in my humble opinion, and i dont think i should have to bend over backwards till my spine breaks trialing out a polearm that will make this deficit go away. Once again I walk away disappointed devs. Why do you always hurt me so? ; ;

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You know this is all highly dependant on what mobs you are fighting. In the grand scheme of things Stardiver is probably one of the better WS's, yes it is not a jawdropper like Shoha or Ukko's, but it gives DRG something they never really had before, which is consistency. Besides Botulus and mobs strong to piercing I dont think there is a mob in the game where I'm averaging under 1k damage.

Also even before I got my STR magian polearm, I was using Patentias Lance for great results, and that only cost me 50k or so.