Tachi: Shoha Versus Quietus

[Finuve]

Decided to do some testing of Tachi: Shoha versus Quietus

here is my gear, damage and average results

All double attacks and misses were ignored (probably shouldve removed brutal/pole etc to make this faster but w/e) and all WSs at 100%

The mob was Dhalmels in Abyssea-Altepa, I had cruor buffs but the only atma I had on was sea daughter, I will be adding outside abyssea testing soon

Samurai Gear:
Kikugosaku
Pole grip
Thew Bomblet
Kemas Earring
Brutal Earring
Justice Torque
Twilight Helm
Twilight Mail
Heafoc Mitts
Rajas Ring
Flame Ring
Unkai Sune-ate +1
Unkai Haidate +2
Warwolf Belt
Atheling Mantle

Great Katana Skill:360(With Justice Torque)

Tachi: Shoha
2549
3125
2517
2354
2563
1831
1667
1743
2224
2020
2601
2076
1668
1872
2669
1637
1967
2054
1568
2428
2026
2021
1679
2673
2027

Average: 2142


Dark Knight Gear:
Redemption(90)
Bomb Core
Bale Earring
Brutal Earring
Snow Gorget
Twilight Helm
Twilight Mail
Heafoc Mitts
Rajas Ring
Flame Ring
Bale Sollerets +2
Bale Flanchard +2
Snow Belt
Atheling Mantle

Scythe Skill: 418

Quietus
2228
2543
2317
1753
2389
2094
1909
1654
2061
1995
2402
2113
1774
1918
1675
2115
2371
2307
1587
1643
2197
2305
2065
2025
2034

Average: 2058

So obviously neither of my gear sets are perfect, but my DRK is much better than my SAM, especially look at the difference in my weapon skill levels

so all this to simply say, Buff Quietus (and Camlann's Torment)

I can do Shoha far more often and all I gotta do is slide a kasha in to make Light, yet more often and higher damage? thats ridiculous

interesting to note though is how inconsistent shoha it, it averages out just fine, but its odd, those were all two hits, and that 3125 is just odd,
I had one miss the second hit and do 1800, more than some of mine with 2 hits landing

also if I gear Atmas properly, the difference becomes huge, shoha starts averaging 4k and spiking 6k wheras quietus I rarely ever see 4ks, and my spikes are 3500

but I wanted to use abyssea for simplicity and speed without going all out abyssea, where the difference is even more ridiculous, and dont forget TP% where Shoha benefits FAR MORE

[CrAZYVIC]

As career samurai. Hope this give you a idea of what combos the Sams use.

Atmas VV/AOA/ Atma of the Smiting Blow 100 Tp bonus and stack with Tp bonus GK

Tachi Fudo with attack capped. (This is very rare almost imposible)

2553 - 3857 Normal
3013 - 4521 Double attack ones
3469 - 5205 Triple attack ones

Tachi Shoha: Using a Tp bonus Great katana the attack always will be capped during WS

2586 - 3880 Normal
3213 - 4821 Double attack ones
3840 - 5762 Triple attack ones


Quietus using the same atma combos.

1896 - 2844 Normal
2528 - 3792 Double attack ones
3160 - 4741 Triple attack ones

Yeah taking in consideratiion the 30% Def down

Quietus with a solid build and using this Atma combo its ok. But Shoha still ahead.

Is faster math the WS with diferent gear variations so you can test all you want mate. FFXI maths are easy

[Finuve]

I'm not sure you got the point of my numbers, I know what atmas to push these WSs properly, the point that even without the ridiculous boosts Shoha gets with DAs and TAs, it still beats an empyrean WS

[CrAZYVIC]

I'm not sure you got the point of my numbers, I know what atmas to push these WSs properly, the point that even without the ridiculous boosts Shoha gets with DAs and TAs, it still beats an empyrean WS

Yeah this Shit is so overpowered.

Atm Shoha beats, Fudo, Torcleaver, Quietus. Etc. Even if i'm happy because im main Sam, i must acept this WS just put Sam at level Warrior.

Yesterday i parse at Einherjar tier 3 Run 160k Using a Shoha build with 15+ People playing. Is normal for a Ukovansara war parse 150k in einherjar but with six man runs, with over 15 people i dont think even Ukkos fury can fight vs kind of damage.

Probably Ukkos fury still ahead in zerg situations with Bard, Corsair, PD but even there Shoha will get very close. Im enjoying a lot this WS because Sam is one of fav jobs.. but i feel a bit bad for the others DDS. This new weapon skills was intented just a Mid tier WS updates and Shoha probably is the BEST WS in the entire game. With the new War Nerf im absoluty sure Samurai will be the best DD =/

Im Not Happy.. Because this just killed the competition for the events i play.. After of see the potential this WS, i understand the other Jobs dont have a chance for outparse a Career sam now, even inside of abbysea probably only Dragoon, Ukkos fury war and Monk with victory smith still ahead but for a very short margin. With the incoming Nerf. Dragoon will be the only job can outparse a sam inside abbysea, outside of abbysea is better the people lose the hopes Shoha just maked sam a Superior Tier DD :_: