The "Go Solo It" fever

[Tezz]

"Go Solo it" is the new "Google it"

SO tired of googleing stuff only to get results that are forum posts titled EXACTLY what I am looking for, only to find someone asking the same question I am, and the only response being "Google it".

But that's neither here, nor there.
Carry on.

It's also along the lines of "Wiki it". It's hard to get direct information from someone these days because we rely on the internet to the point that we do not retain the information ourselves. It's that and laziness.
If you ask a LS member for some information they try to shrug it off by making you rely on something else because they may have forgotten a small piece of that information that could be crucial (like, wait until next gameday etc).

The easiest way around this is to try to be hostile and make the person seem unacknowledged on the matter. This typically challenges them to "look it up" themselves and from that point on, they will parrot the information back to you.

And then you don't have to alt-tab and look it up yourself!

[breau]

lern2google? 99.99% of the time you can easily find an answer to a question faster by using google than you could by asking on some forums.

lol hi rog , you on alexander? than we know each other^^ btw to everybody here, how about to post your server and your job as well? this may help people find us, when they want help. i´m rdm on alexander from bastok and i love to help, and i know a lot people feeling the same. so, when we playing again, whenever this will be, don´t be shy, send me ingame message and i do what i can. jobemote rdm: revels in moment of stylish elegance^^
breau, alexander, bastok

[rog]

lol hi rog , you on alexander?

No.

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[Krystal]

lets see here....1.....2....3....4.....5....yep...5 of the replied here are people in other threads who'd rather have it easy as pie..so their comments mean nothing here. if you sent me a tell on my server asking for help about 98.8% ofd the time i'd be more than willing to help and requiring no gil at all to boot as long as i wasn't busy with something else at that particular time and even if i was i'd simply ask if you could wait till i was done then i'd help you. the idea of "paying gill" is retarded...stupid...and greedy....as my phrase goes when i PL players on my sch" Power leveling players is a Kindness, not a business."

[Greatguardian]

lets see here....1.....2....3....4.....5....yep...5 of the replied here are people in other threads who'd rather have it easy as pie..so their comments mean nothing here. if you sent me a tell on my server asking for help about 98.8% ofd the time i'd be more than willing to help and requiring no gil at all to boot as long as i wasn't busy with something else at that particular time and even if i was i'd simply ask if you could wait till i was done then i'd help you. the idea of "paying gill" is retarded...stupid...and greedy....as my phrase goes when i PL players on my sch" Power leveling players is a Kindness, not a business."

Are you including me? I felt my advice was fairly solid, and a good way to get on the good side of most of the disillusioned old school players. None of us want to repeat the same 5-1 mission walkthrough for the 5,000th time when there's a wiki for it, nor do we want to farm yagudo necklaces for someone when they're easily soloable. Teaching someone self-reliance early on is a great way to be more successful later. I've had far too many experiences with players that my friends would spoil, helping with anything and everything, who pretty much never left Jeuno unless they had 1 or more 75s with them to do everything for them. That's not healthy for anyone involved. High level players get annoyed, and low level players don't learn how to do things for themselves.

The easiest way to earn my respect is to get things done when I'm not there to help. A friend of mine came back to the game a couple weeks ago, having Rdm and Rng at 75, no gear, and no gil (he gave it away ages ago when he quit). After he bought Abyssea, he told me he wanted to take his THF from 65-90. I took him out to Aby-Attohwa and solo'd some Dom ops for him, got him 65-90 and got all his Genkais done in a couple of hours. Aside from getting him Razed Ruins, that's about all he needed my help with. After that, he went out, used the Dominion Notes I got him to buy some augmented Daggers, skilled up everything to cap, unlocked and killed his WSNMs, got a Swift belt and Raparee harness, and farmed up a couple mil in gil to cover the basic gear he was missing. I was not there for any of that, and he didn't need me to be. Now, when he actually does need my help for something (Turul, AF3, etc), I'm more than willing to drop what I'm doing and head over because I know he's responsible enough to contribute to the fight, rather than cheer from the sidelines.

[Krystal]

Are you including me? I felt my advice was fairly solid, and a good way to get on the good side of most of the disillusioned old school players. None of us want to repeat the same 5-1 mission walkthrough for the 5,000th time when there's a wiki for it, nor do we want to farm yagudo necklaces for someone when they're easily soloable. Teaching someone self-reliance early on is a great way to be more successful later. I've had far too many experiences with players that my friends would spoil, helping with anything and everything, who pretty much never left Jeuno unless they had 1 or more 75s with them to do everything for them. That's not healthy for anyone involved. High level players get annoyed, and low level players don't learn how to do things for themselves.

The easiest way to earn my respect is to get things done when I'm not there to help. A friend of mine came back to the game a couple weeks ago, having Rdm and Rng at 75, no gear, and no gil (he gave it away ages ago when he quit). After he bought Abyssea, he told me he wanted to take his THF from 65-90. I took him out to Aby-Attohwa and solo'd some Dom ops for him, got him 65-90 and got all his Genkais done in a couple of hours. Aside from getting him Razed Ruins, that's about all he needed my help with. After that, he went out, used the Dominion Notes I got him to buy some augmented Daggers, skilled up everything to cap, unlocked and killed his WSNMs, got a Swift belt and Raparee harness, and farmed up a couple mil in gil to cover the basic gear he was missing. I was not there for any of that, and he didn't need me to be. Now, when he actually does need my help for something (Turul, AF3, etc), I'm more than willing to drop what I'm doing and head over because I know he's responsible enough to contribute to the fight, rather than cheer from the sidelines.

no. not including you.

[Auredant]

Are you including me? I felt my advice was fairly solid, and a good way to get on the good side of most of the disillusioned old school players. None of us want to repeat the same 5-1 mission walkthrough for the 5,000th time when there's a wiki for it, nor do we want to farm yagudo necklaces for someone when they're easily soloable. Teaching someone self-reliance early on is a great way to be more successful later. I've had far too many experiences with players that my friends would spoil, helping with anything and everything, who pretty much never left Jeuno unless they had 1 or more 75s with them to do everything for them. That's not healthy for anyone involved. High level players get annoyed, and low level players don't learn how to do things for themselves.

The easiest way to earn my respect is to get things done when I'm not there to help. A friend of mine came back to the game a couple weeks ago, having Rdm and Rng at 75, no gear, and no gil (he gave it away ages ago when he quit). After he bought Abyssea, he told me he wanted to take his THF from 65-90. I took him out to Aby-Attohwa and solo'd some Dom ops for him, got him 65-90 and got all his Genkais done in a couple of hours. Aside from getting him Razed Ruins, that's about all he needed my help with. After that, he went out, used the Dominion Notes I got him to buy some augmented Daggers, skilled up everything to cap, unlocked and killed his WSNMs, got a Swift belt and Raparee harness, and farmed up a couple mil in gil to cover the basic gear he was missing. I was not there for any of that, and he didn't need me to be. Now, when he actually does need my help for something (Turul, AF3, etc), I'm more than willing to drop what I'm doing and head over because I know he's responsible enough to contribute to the fight, rather than cheer from the sidelines.

excellent example....except for the dominion ops in attohwa business (but i'm sure that was just a mistake)
i was Plin a teenish whm ls member in the dunes when he asked me to walk him to jeuno so he wouldnt get aggroed and die. Not an unreasonable request....except that he was a 60 blm at the time ><
when i mentioned it to him he just said "but im not a 60 blm now" /facepalm

[Rambus]

I want to comment on this "solo aspect" that got me upset. I am working on something that I have trobble getting help with so I try to join la thene abyssea exp parties, get key items from gold chests and brew the NM I want. Recenetly someone was walking the same path I was and asked if i would join him when he is at that point. I said yes. The other day we where killing NM for key item and after the first kill he said i rather solo. I kept asking what do you mean? me personally I would rather go slower at something and do it with someone then speed though it soloing. so yeah that got me very upset.

I hate soloing, i am more of a people person, that is the idea of being on an online game, is it not? if so much stuff wants to be solo why not make offline version of FFXI?

I also hate the go wiki it. I was under the effect of brew killing a NM when someone sent me a tell do not kill a martello it spits out endless mobs and they dont want it kicking the loot. ( something to that effect) after I asked I have no idea what they where talking about they tell me to go wiki it.

how can i wiki something I do not even know what to look for? I did not understand at all what he was talking about.

A person I do not know well ( very famoius being know as a "tool" or a con artist sent me a tell asking to come proc thier yellow as blu. I said yes and asked if i could lot PLD seal, i mean they are rushing me out there and I do not even know them. They never answered me. So i get there waching them fail at this NM and zombing it (i ended up dieing a few times my self) and it drops a PLD seal. So i lotted it and get kicked.

Dispite being told they acted like that I gave them a chance anyway, so now I am just conferming what they do to people. I'm sure the person dont have meny friends now.

[Runespider]

FFXI has always been touted as a game with an amazingly good community, the reason for that is because there are many things you need help with. The community was built out of necessity, so be nice to people even if your an ass**** irl, help people with stuff and try make friends..that way when you want help there is more chance you will get it.

[Kjara]

I hope you aren't addressing to me with that post, because I do help people plenty and do have friends (even though most of them just live in abyssea like it could disappear from game the next day), my post is totally unpersonal, where I show my concern for all the new players that get demotivated and quit (as I stated in my previous posts).