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  1. #1
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Whoa there, ease up with the nerf bat SE!

    Why is it that every time something comes out that's better than something old, it has to get nerfed into oblivion?

    Now don't get me wrong, I can agree that WAR is basically the #1 DD right now, but it is now being subjected to a nerf on the same order as RNG back in the day, which took RNG years to even partially recover from.

    Then there's the new weapon skills. Almost every one of them that was in any way better than any existing one was nerfed to inferiority. With Hand to Hand, they nerfed Shijin Spiral. I thought "Well, at least I still have Victory Smite." Then they proceed to nerf that too. WARs, MNKs and even PUPs (whom are nowhere near top tier) all have reason to be upset by this.

    I'm not going to pretend I'm happy about this, in fact it makes me quite ENRAGED. But I'll step back for a moment and ask: Why do you guys have to nerf every new thing that ends up being an upgrade? Aren't new, higher-level abilities supposed to be stronger than lower level ones? Why are we clinging to the old stuff so hard? Can't we buff the jobs that don't keep up with WARs and MNKs? Buffing makes more people a lot more happy- we all picked the jobs we wanted to play for a reason and don't like being told that our jobs are going to be beaten to death by the nerf bat.

    Before the game goes down to apply these "fixes", I predict the following:

    ==== System Message ====
    An emergency maintenance has been scheduled from 20:00 to 09:00 PST to address an issue where Samurai is no longer the top DD. During this time, FINAL FANTASY XI will be unavailable for play, and you will be able to throw your controller or keyboard in anger. We are sorry for the inconvinence.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 12-22-2011 at 08:13 AM.

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    Player Tiberius's Avatar
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    Why buff other jobs' damage capabilities, when you can nerf the strongest items & call it 'balance'? And I'm not even trying to be smarmy by saying that. Job popularity rises & falls on the whims of the devs...always has, and always shall.

    Seriously, this wasn't unexpected. The nails that stick out generally get the hammer first. Other items shall be, *ahem*, adjusted as the need arises. The game is being restructured for the LV99 cap, so this is not the end of the nerfing.
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    Player Tannlore's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberius View Post
    Why buff other jobs' damage capabilities, when you can nerf the strongest items & call it 'balance'? And I'm not even trying to be smarmy by saying that. Job popularity rises & falls on the whims of the devs...always has, and always shall.

    Seriously, this wasn't unexpected. The nails that stick out generally get the hammer first. Other items shall be, *ahem*, adjusted as the need arises. The game is being restructured for the LV99 cap, so this is not the end of the nerfing.
    Pretty much sums up my opinion of the matter. Probably just the beginning of changes to come. Wonder who is next. The nerd bat seldom swings once. :/
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    Player Atomic_Skull's Avatar
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    Ukko's Fury and Victory Smite are fundamentally ridiculous. Don't bother denying it because you all know that it's true.
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    I sometimes think to myself that there must have been a time when SE understood that being higher level meant being inherently stronger than you used to be. I remember back when it was a given that a 24 level difference would be a huge jump in strength for any job, back when it was common sense that being level 44 made you a lot stronger than being level 20.

    So SE, please explain to me WHY you are STILL structuring new additions to this game to match level 75 content? On what planet do you people live? What was the point of increasing the level cap if everything is still based around level 75 content?

    I don't know what the hell has happened at SE to make you people afraid of your own creation but for christ's sake get over it. Stop using "destroying any ability to enjoy your class or even play it effectively" as a synonym for "balance". Stop killing jobs just because you're afraid of a Black mage outdamaging a Bard. Stop worrying about trying to keep content that's 24 levels behind us relevant!

    Stuff like this is why your MMOs are failing in the market. (In case you weren't aware.)
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    Last edited by Kiroh; 12-22-2011 at 09:30 AM.

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    Player Krashport's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull View Post
    Ukko's Fury and Victory Smite are fundamentally ridiculous. Don't bother denying it because you all know that it's true.
    Sounds like a person that makes a Linkshell and named it after themselves. Can't get help unlocking an Empyrean weapon. It's not that these Empyrean weapons skill are overpowered they are fine the way they are trust me. It's just the Content w/in the game just needs to be Up'ed.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    half the reason people seek out these weapons is to get a powerful new weapon skill. it takes some work (not a whole ton, but some) to get the WS, it is supposed to be strong.
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    Greetings everyone!

    We appreciate all the feedback you have given us in this thread and I can assure you that it is not unheard. Since there is another thread similar to this one, we will be locking it so keep the feedback focused on one thread. Thank you for your time and understanding!
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