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    Player Quetzacoatl's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by VZX View Post
    2 STR atma, triple attack proc
    WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU NOT USING RAZED RUINS

    YOUR STR IS AUTO-CAPPED BY THE TIME YOU PUT ON CRUOR BUFFS


    Don't you talk to me about complaining when you're doing it wrong.
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    Last edited by Quetzacoatl; 12-22-2011 at 03:38 AM.

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    I wonder if that thread about dual wielding great katana will be taken seriously now...Samurai Tanaka is on the move!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quetzacoatl View Post
    WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU NOT USING RAZED RUINS

    YOUR STR IS AUTO-CAPPED BY THE TIME YOU PUT ON CRUOR BUFFS


    Don't you fucking underestimate me again.
    And why on earth IT WAS ME? I was making a case for the 7k shoha screenshot.
    And I don't advocate using RR when spamming this WS in Abyssea anyway.

    And what the hell is "Your str is auto-capped" ? Please educate yourself with game mechanics further.
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    Last edited by VZX; 12-22-2011 at 03:43 AM.

  4. #34
    Player Quetzacoatl's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by VZX View Post
    And why on earth IT WAS ME? I was making a case for the 7k shoha screenshot.
    And I don't advocate using RR when spamming this WS in Abyssea anyway.

    And what the hell is "Your str is auto-capped" ? Educate yourself with mechanics further.
    RR in your melee phase will help increase your Overall damage in your TP phase, land more hits, more crits, more crit damage, and higher crit damage on aftermath proc from Tachi: Fudo when Meditate is down

    There's also a certain point where adding more STR will just end up giving diminishing returns, so generally it's not worth adding more STR when you could be adding an Attack+ atma like Alpha & Omega.

    Tell me where i'm wrong.
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    Last edited by Quetzacoatl; 12-22-2011 at 03:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VZX View Post
    Which parts of "2.3k~2.4k with 2 hits landed" and "with just cruor buff" you don't understand?
    Which part of "My highest without any STR atma only gives me 5.4k damage" you don't understand?
    what part of average dont you understand? 50 STR does not equate to 1600 damage, and I completely ignored triple attack procs
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    I've been trying to break 6k with stardiver and just now I got 5,999 -_-
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  7. #37
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    i use TP bonus weapon

    Atma: Apoc VV Smiting Blow

    Average dmg is 5k and spikes up to 6-7k Highest being 7400ish

    i Whore out on the STR mod ._.

    Average outside of abyseea on VT mobs average 1800-3400

    and again i just whore out the STR mod lol
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  8. #38
    Player Quetzacoatl's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unaisis View Post
    i use TP bonus weapon

    Atma: Apoc VV Smiting Blow

    Average dmg is 5k and spikes up to 6-7k Highest being 7400ish

    i Whore out on the STR mod ._.

    Average outside of abyseea on VT mobs average 1800-3400

    and again i just whore out the STR mod lol
    I was going to mention, that's what the player in the screenshot in the first post used when testing it.

    I'm certain he should've been using RR though for more aftermath crits, if that's even possible on SAM anymore with the ton of Store TP they get. X:
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  9. #39
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    Shoha, does not need nerfing, Fudo and Kaiten still out damage it in almost every situation except in where it's a mob with high defense. Myself, and many other fellow Amanomurakumo & Masamune Samurai can attest to this. Abyssea and Atma shouldn't be factored into this.
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    Last edited by Toren; 12-22-2011 at 04:05 AM.
    Former Toren of Fairy

  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quetzacoatl View Post
    RR in your melee phase will help increase your Overall damage in your TP phase, land more hits, more crits, more crit damage, and higher crit damage on aftermath proc from Tachi: Fudo when Meditate is down

    There's also a certain point where adding more STR will just end up giving diminishing returns, so generally it's not worth adding more STR when you could be adding an Attack+ atma like Alpha & Omega.

    Tell me where i'm wrong.
    You are assuming everyone that spam Shoha has Masamune


    Quote Originally Posted by Finuve View Post
    what part of average dont you understand? 50 STR does not equate to 1600 damage, and I completely ignored triple attack procs
    And what part you don't understand of "2.3k~2.4 when 2 hits landed" and "with just cruor buff" ?
    Did I say 2 hits landed is ALL I had in 2 hours session? Did I say it was AVERAGE?
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