[DEV1064] Tachi: Shoha

[VZX]

so why did ur damage suck so bad? I was hitting 4k average 2hits with 1 STR atma, that 1 STR atma doesnt make 1600 damage

- I don't care for my average. I didn't track it.
- I don't care for your average, but I don't see how your average unbelievable or how my average can fall significantly lower than you do. You keep got yourself pestered by my "2.3k~2.4k when just 2 hit landed" while it certainly, in no way of, saying that is my average.

You should get one for your SAM regardless, if you're serious about your job.

Thank you for the concern, but my resources (time) isn't yours to be paying. If you do, then by all means come to Asura become my slave for working into one.

Honestly, VZX, it feels kind of weird to disagree with you on numbers, but still;

Between the significant amount of STR gear available to sams, the moderately strong fTP relative to the other new ws, the fact that whoring out str gear increases the likelihood of capping fSTR even on stronger mobs, or getting fairly close on super tough ones, and the significant attack bonus shoha has allowing it to reach the pDIF cap much more easily than most ws; how can you not see how overpowered this ws is?

Because you are seeing Abyssea.

You see these new WS have shear amount of base damage compared to previous WS. You see around 200 on dagger and close to 300 on 2 hander, while old WS only have like 60% of the amount and empyrean has close to 80% of the amount.
If you've already unlocked Exenterator to max, you should be able to see it how multi hit can boost your damage significantly.

We agree how devastating a crit'able WS becomes when you use RR atma. My Chant du Cygne outside abyssea probably can only spike up to slightly above 2k. In abyssea, I can spike close to 6k (maybe have broken one?) with RR GH and apoc. Almost 3x amount of damage
2-hit shoha is about 2.1k outside abyssea, 2.3k~2.4k with 2 hits landed and just cruor buff. I don't see how it's more broken than my CdC in terms of damage scaling when appropriate atmas are used.

[Tannlore]

Tell me about it. The game is going back to 2003-2006 again already.

*sarcasm mode on*
Not to take away from the discussion, but you aren't the first person to mention this. I find it kind of ironic with all the calls from people wanting the good old days before abyssea back. Here's a taste of it and maaaan are people mad. Make your you minds! lol
*sarcasm mode off*

Seriously though, it does need some balancing. I've seen this Ws in action and it is kinda... just wow. o.o;

[Flionheart]

The double standards SE employ in nearly every major patch are astounding.

[Quetzacoatl]

1. Everyone reading this needs to post screenshots of the damage from Shoha as high as the numbers posted in the original post. Minimum Damage 5K to a Maximum of 8K (if that's even possible)

2. Underneath these screenshots should say, "THIS IS NOT BALANCE!"

3. Keep doing it until we get a Developer's response

[Theytak]

1. Everyone reading this needs to post screenshots of the damage from Shoha as high as the numbers posted in the original post. Minimum Damage 5K to a Maximum of 8K (if that's even possible)

2. Underneath these screenshots should say, "THIS IS NOT BALANCE!"

3. Keep doing it until we get a Developer's response

I vote we include pictures of all the new WS with similar quality gear sets on the same mobs. Requiescat and Entropy vs Tachi: Shoha, and they say they're balanced. pffft

[Finuve]

I vote we include pictures of all the new WS with similar quality gear sets on the same mobs. Requiescat and Entropy vs Tachi: Shoha, and they say they're balanced. pffft

Ill toss quietus in there as well, someone else should grab camlanns torment and cloudsplitter

[Quetzacoatl]

I vote we include pictures of all the new WS with similar quality gear sets on the same mobs. Requiescat and Entropy vs Tachi: Shoha, and they say they're balanced. pffft

Even better!

[Theytak]

I wholly and completely support this.

Also, inb4 the sams who think same was underpowered and needed another tachi: gamebreaker.

[Neofire]

I disagree, just because someone with the right gear setup ws'd for 7k ya'll want to shun it. I heard noone crying when people were doing 7-10k damage with wildfire. Good god.

[Flionheart]

Main Job: SAM lv. 90