[dev1064] Job Adjustments: Weapon Skills

[Vold]

You know everytime I think of the latest nerf whether it be merit WSs or Empyrean WSs or restraint or blood rage or other JAs or VW or VW drop rates or lv95/99 requirements for weapons and so on, I can't help but think that if they knew they could get away with it without a massive exodus of players, they'd probably include this video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ with each announcement and like probably half of you already know what you're going to see by clicking that link but that's okay because you and the other 50% will agree that yeah, yeah what I'm saying is pretty flipping true.

[Rohelius]

Your post needs some editing and you're being repetitive now...

That's it i'm done with you and your useless nonsense so take the next 3 pages to post what ever you want in response to me because i am not coming back to read it.
There is no point to talking to someone about a job he apparently doesn't know about.
Go level warrior or just go back to the THF forums and QQ some more about DNC out damaging you...

Oh and have a nice life MR. Crab cakes~

[Nala]

That's it i'm done with you and your useless nonsense so take the next 3 pages to post what ever you want in response to me because i am not coming back to read it.

You already said this once before, yet here you are still.

here's the thing, no one else is getting cure V, lolrdm melee, sweet tier IV nu... nvm, everything resists enfeebles and oh btw whm you can have addle while we're at it.

mean while drk's getting scarlet delirium (yeah think the devs were delirious when they thought this one up) and despite the requests for better scythe ws's hello entropy!~

Thf has a whole slew of job abilities that dont really do anything any more, and they've invalidated thier own argument for giving thief subtle blow on the premise that TH is OP, maybe if it boosted lights beyond the cap including the cell bonus not that capping lights has proven to do much for VW drop rates in the first place.

DNC a job severly limited by tp gain and should not have to share timers on all their healing waltz's

hell the emity system still hasnt been touched since level 75 yet due to new abilities, gear, weapon skills and higher levels we have damage inflation... oh wait i got the solution lets "balance" everything so that we do the same damage we did at 75, emity problem solved (for gods sake please dont)

oh hey they finally added new bullets, guess what cor got shafted, the second they finally get around to those salvage gear upgrades O. ingots are going to inflate again. (they are still going to do this right its been how long since they said they would? not to mention they seem to be back pedaling on alot of their promises lately)

point is there are alot of things that need to be "balanced" before they go about nerfing over powered jobs, further more back during the 75 days once they wielded the nerf kraken club (occationally only nerfs once) they get on a roll.

with the recent announcement that abyssea was a epic fail (from dev team stand point) you can expect that they are going to start rolling back alot of things added since. aka your f'n retarded for encouraging them.

[Nala]

i liked the 3 deflated tires analogy. screw it if you cant have 4 full tires, have 4 flat ones.

[CrAZYVIC]

As samurai and hating you all wars. I dont support the Nerf. I writed this under alchool effects. So dont take this shit too serious

Before i forget STAREN whiriiiiii is yourrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr relic =P? j/k ^_^

Good luck with your Mythic man. I hope you are making the DRG one.


A little Suggestion For balance the Silly game... This points in my opinion means the balance, nerf dont solve nothing is necesary work and more work for fix the problems.

Make Fudo, Torcleaver, quietus, rudra storm and Camlann's TormenT can critical with 60% chances at 100% TP. Problem solved. Increase the Hi, VS, Ukkos chances to 60% as well.

As little example Atmas RR/VV/AOA.

Fudo Critical

3583 - 4925 Normal
4336 - 6056 Double attack ones
5103 - 7187 Triple attack ones

Yep all other WS damage will look like this too.

Make the Relics and mythics WS critical all them 60% at 100% TP. The same will happen like fudo in the above example

Give DW jobs and H2h jobs a Job ability like "Hasso" With 10% Ja haste <3. Now this jobs will become true Damage per second jobs..

Make the DW jobs and H2h Jobs can Deals double damage on both hands using a empyreal weapon.

Oh man you just Losed your Fucking mind not? If they do this Now the DW,H2H jobs will destroy the DOT of Two hander jobs in a dramatic way... Yeah is the price Two hander jobs WS frecuently and WS damage. dw,h2h JOBS DPS owneage.

Reduce the Tachi Shoha x2 attack to 15% attack boost.

Doing this the game will feel LIKE 99! Not like at lv 75 -_-

Even if i hate you all wars with passion and my evil part is laughing for the nerf. You guys makeme feel like shit all the year. I dont support the nerf ukkos fury. Where is the fun if i can destroy totally a ukovansara war with a Tp bonus Great katana? Nuuu giveme back my rivals the Wars.

Yeah like atomic skull say "WARS TEARS ARE DELICIOUS" But i still need challenges with my sam...

"Licks slowly my lips after taste Wars tears <3"

[Insaniac]

Honestly... what the fuck is wrong with some of you? Because like 8 people bashed relics you are nerdgasming over a nerf that will probably just be the tip of the iceberg. It's really sad that some of you are capable of holding so much hatred for such a stupid stupid reason. One WAR trolled you on a forum and you cry tears of joy over the misfortune of 100s of people? Nerfs in general are crap. Nerfs are even more crap when they happen to things you worked hard for. Try to look at it objectively instead focusing on your hatred for that one dude who said that one mean thing to you that time.

Also on the Catanerf and where everyone was when that happened... These forums didn't exist until 2 years after that happened. You can believe there would have been just as big a shitstorm.

[tyrantsyn]

Honestly... what the fuck is wrong with some of you? Because like 8 people bashed relics you are nerdgasming over a nerf that will probably just be the tip of the iceberg. It's really sad that some of you are capable of holding so much hatred for such a stupid stupid reason. One WAR trolled you on a forum and you cry tears of joy over the misfortune of 100s of people? Nerfs in general are crap. Nerfs are even more crap when they happen to things you worked hard for. Try to look at it objectively instead focusing on your hatred for that one dude who said that one mean thing to you that time.

Also on the Catanerf and where everyone was when that happened... These forums didn't exist until 2 years after that happened. You can believe there would have been just as big a shitstorm.

You know Insaniac makes a good point here. These nerf's reduce's damage potential, which over all affects everyone. You my be here cheering about it now. But how are you going to feel when you lose that next fight by a mere margin when you could have won it before the nerf. These job class are suppose to all be improving, not degrading. And we need to be telling SE as a group that they need to fix the other job classes to bring them up to the bar, not bring other's down. Nerf's aren't fun, improvement's are.

[Insaniac]

You know Insaniac makes a good point here. These nerf's reduce's damage potential, which over all affects everyone. You my be here cheering about it now. But how are you going to feel when you lose that next fight by a mere margin when you could have won it before the nerf. These job class are suppose to all be improving, not degrading. And we need to be telling SE as a group that they need to fix the other job classes to bring them up to the bar, not bring other's down. Nerf's aren't fun, improvement's are.

Right. It's clear that the dev team doesn't have our back or sympathize with us in any way so instead of being assholes to each other we could all agree that nerfs are lame and buffs are better. The few vocal people that come on here and support the nerfs just because they have some kind of irrational hatred of WARs or Emps may very well be the thing that makes the devs think they can get away with nerfs and crappy content and those same people could be next in line for the nerf bat.

BTW. The crit rate on Ukko's seems to be 15% now. Down from 30%. Even if you agree with the nerf that seems like overkill.

[Atomic_Skull]

BTW. The crit rate on Ukko's seems to be 15% now. Down from 30%. Even if you agree with the nerf that seems like overkill.

So it was brought in line with the base crit rate of all other critical hit based WS and this is overkill. How do you figure that?

5% base crit rate would be overkill, this is just correcting a mistake.

You know Insaniac makes a good point here. These nerf's reduce's damage potential, which over all affects everyone. You my be here cheering about it now. But how are you going to feel when you lose that next fight by a mere margin when you could have won it before the nerf. These job class are suppose to all be improving, not degrading. And we need to be telling SE as a group that they need to fix the other job classes to bring them up to the bar, not bring other's down. Nerf's aren't fun, improvement's are.

I'm a THF, we've been the butt monkey of FFXI since the very beginning. THF will always be on the bottom no matter what so I'm not worried.

Watching WAR and MNK suffer however brings me great joy and it's totally worth the slim chance that SE might toss out a nerf to THF that really wouldn't change our lot in any meaningful way anyway.

[Kimble]

So it was brought in line with the base crit rate of all other critical hit based WS and this is overkill. How do you figure that?

5% base crit rate would be overkill, this is just correcting a mistake.



I'm a THF, we've been the butt monkey of FFXI since the very beginning. THF will always be on the bottom no matter what so I'm not worried.

Watching WAR and MNK suffer however brings me great joy and it's totally worth the slim chance that SE might toss out a nerf to THF that really wouldn't change our lot in any meaningful way anyway.

So let me get this right, you are very happy that WAR and MNK got nerfed, while THF still gets nothing, and WAR and MNK are still a better DD than THF and still won't want thf for anything more then TH?

I mean, have fun being 100% useless in one of the bigger end game events.