More nerfs for War & Ukkos.

[newmonkey]

Adventurers seeking to reach the absolute pinnacle of power better watch out because we'll be balancing the #$%& out of everything to make sure it feels like next to nothing has changed. PUPDATE FTW!!!!!!! New abilities at 99? nope. New weaponskills at 99? Sure but they'll be equal or suck worse than previous ones. New gear for everyone? Naaaaaaah with our wildly random, droprates and loot tables you can repeat the same fights over and over ad infinitum because someone in your group is bound to be screwed out of the piece they want.

Seriously what the heck is wrong with SE? All people really wanted was a slightly more challenging experience than Abyssea. Now they just seem to be going back to their same terrible practices. When was the last time we had so many nerfs? They could have easily just improved the new weaponskills that came out to compete with War and Mnk, but no they have to weaken classes. This with the advent of a new level cap supposedly raising everyone's power, are you kidding me?? It's the most backwards way of doing things I've ever seen.

You can shut the hell up Orson you were one of the idiots who were laughing at relics holders when the 85 empyreans came out, pay back is a bitch isn't it.

[Linku]

I just did some testing of Ukko's Fury pre and post nerf.

Pre~100% | Pre 300%
Min 831 | Min 1663
Max 3277 | Max 3306
Avg 1973.3 | Avg 2789.2

Post~100% | Post 300%
Min 1374 | Min 1670
Max 2687 | Max 3223
Avg 1780.2 | Avg 2356

~9.8% dmg drop at ~100% TP
~15.5% dmg drop at 300% TP

This test was done on Lesser Colibri, wearing full Empyrean+2, Goading Belt, Heed Ring, Rajas Ring, lvl90 Ukonvasara, Pole Grip, Atheling Mantle, Brutal Earring, Ravager's Earring, Ravager's Orb, Agasaya's Collar. No /ja were used.

[Scribble]

I just did some testing of Ukko's Fury pre and post nerf.

Pre~100% | Pre 300%
Min 831 | Min 1663
Max 3277 | Max 3306
Avg 1973.3 | Avg 2789.2

Post~100% | Post 300%
Min 1374 | Min 1670
Max 2687 | Max 3223
Avg 1780.2 | Avg 2356

~9.8% dmg drop at ~100% TP
~15.5% dmg drop at 300% TP

Sample size?

[Babekeke]

Dam this nerf, now other jobs will be able to take part in events, not just mnks and wars!

[FrankReynolds]

I honestly doubt he can.

?sigh you were right.

You can shut the hell up Orson you were one of the idiots who were laughing at relics holders when the 85 empyreans came out, pay back is a bitch isn't it.

I feel like some one is really sad in their pants about something, and never learned how to properly express themselves. It's ok, babies scream nonsense because they don't know the words too.

On a related note: I doubt this nerf will be as bad as people are making it out to be. However, I don't think they should be nerfing anything when they still haven't given most jobs any of the boosts and or tweaks that they have been promising for like a year now. Nerfing for balance = fail.

[scaevola]

No one disagrees that Ukko's was overpowered, it doesn't change the fact that this is a completely dick move.

Uh, if it was overpowered, then it almost necessarily follows that nerfing it is not a dick move.

Unless you're suggesting SE is nerfing VSmite and Ukko's out of spite, which is literally medically-actionable paranoia.

[Chriscoffey]

You can shut the hell up Orson you were one of the idiots who were laughing at relics holders when the 85 empyreans came out, pay back is a bitch isn't it.

This made my morning lol.

[Arcon]

Wait a fucking minute... You mean to tell me that all this bitching, all the fucking crying and moaning swirling around warriors now is about a nerf that NO ONE HAS TESTED!?!?! NO ONE EVEN KNOWS HOW MUCH THEY WILL BE EFFECTED???

You seem to be bitching more than all the WARs in here combined. Also, the degree of the nerf doesn't matter at all for what people are complaining about. Even if they only lowered the critical hit rate by 5% it would still be a reason to complain, because it's not what people paid time and money for. They paid for the weapon we have right now, not a worse version of it. What if someone had to decide between which empyrean weapon to take to 95, and while other weapons weren't as good they would have preferred them. However, in the end they were swayed to go with Ukonvasara, because it was just good enough to overshadow the importance other weapon. Now SE go and nerf it, and whoever spent 200M gil on it basically just got an anal probe. Whether they lower the critical hit rate by 5% or 30%, it doesn't matter. That person got screwed for their decision, even though it was made completely rationally and to the best of their knowledge.

Uh, if it was overpowered, then it almost necessarily follows that nerfing it is not a dick move.

Selective reading much? I said like three times that it's the timing that bothers people, not the nerfing itself. If they realized it was a mistake (which should have taken them 10 weapon skills to figure out) and nerfed it, it would have been understandable. Leaving it like this for over a year, making people invest months and hundred millions of gil in this weapon, not a weaker version of the weapon, and then nerfing it - dick move. That's the difference. I'm not saying they're doing it deliberately to piss people off, but by doing this they clearly show no respect for people who invested major parts of their free time this last year into this achievement.

[scaevola]

I agree they delayed longer than they should have, but this is not a reason to never nerf it, ever. My heart bleeds for those intrepid unfortunates who braved the monumental task of killing Glavoid a bunch of times, but there it is. If you agree that Ukko's is too powerful (if indeed you agree with this, which you should, because it is), when could we have scheduled the nerf to come down so that it wouldn't be so offensive to your delicate sensibilities?

The best weapon in the game has been nerfed to....still be the best weapon in the game.

[scaevola]

Also, serious megalolz at people wringing their hands over OMG ALL MY HARD WORK after a year of sounding the drum about how anybody can get an 85 empyrean in less than a week.