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    It's sad that this is worth posting in 2011.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naturebeckles View Post
    It's not going to change gearing my thf for dex, agi, and chr. I'd rather my trick attack hit harder, my evasion be higher and my dancing edge hit harder than change all my gear to the highest haste I can get, just to hit faster. Hitting faster isn't the only, nor is it the most important gear decision people can make on this game. It's YOUR opinion that it is.
    Guess you missed this post:

    My post was pretty much exclusively related to the "TP Phase" of game play and loosely includes the impact of haste on spell casting.
    Gear swaps should always be used to maximize relevant job abilities, spells, weaponskills, etc.
    The point of haste is always been about increasing efficiency. Look at MNK. It grabs hate so easily now because it's just too freaking fast. I used to be real lazy with it and basically just swap for WS and Chakra, but now I HAVE to have macros to swap in gears to keep myself alive now (among others, a damage reduction and an evasion set)--but my main set focuses a good bit on haste to reduce delay with a few pieces to make sure I'm still hitting for TP.

    My freaking SAM and DRG arein about the same boat too because they still in in Perle for TP (one day I'll get around to farming NM's for them)--that haste really ramps up the hate when you are spamming the WS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naturebeckles View Post
    using a TP move at the same time that I'm changing gear for a weapon skill, causing my mage to not be able to cure me. Then I die and lose all my tp anyway.

    I still win.
    What does gear swapping have to do with your mage's ability to cure you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAIST View Post
    Guess you missed this post:



    The point of haste is always been about increasing efficiency. Look at MNK. It grabs hate so easily now because it's just too freaking fast. I used to be real lazy with it and basically just swap for WS and Chakra, but now I HAVE to have macros to swap in gears to keep myself alive now (among others, a damage reduction and an evasion set)--but my main set focuses a good bit on haste to reduce delay with a few pieces to make sure I'm still hitting for TP.

    My freaking SAM and DRG arein about the same boat too because they still in in Perle for TP (one day I'll get around to farming NM's for them)--that haste really ramps up the hate when you are spamming the WS.

    Raist
    I did not miss it. But I don't gear swap for weapon skills. I'm not a moron who yells at mages for letting me die even though it's my own fault because I gear swapped and they couldn't cure me. I see it happen all the time to other people and after playing this game for three years, it makes me laugh now.
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    Level 99 jobs: THF, WAR, SAM, SMN, WHM. Haste is overrated. Ok. Not really. But that's what you all think I believe anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream_Soda View Post
    What does gear swapping have to do with your mage's ability to cure you?
    Everything, according to far too many horrible horrible mages these days. @Nature: <stpt>, <stal>, f1-f6, learn them, love them, spread the joy.

    If a mage lets someone die because of a gear swap, the mage is bad. There are normal macro tags that eliminate the loss of target when blinking, and they have been in the game for years now. It's not hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naturebeckles View Post
    I did not miss it. But I don't gear swap for weapon skills. I'm not a moron who yells at mages for letting me die even though it's my own fault because I gear swapped and they couldn't cure me. I see it happen all the time to other people and after playing this game for three years, it makes me laugh now.
    What does gear swapping have to do with your mage's ability to cure you?
    I ask once again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    Everything, according to far too many horrible horrible mages these days. @Nature: <stpt>, <stal>, f1-f6, learn them, love them, spread the joy.
    :/ first Dubberrucky and now this, lol. Bask in the glory of Sylph. I should consider myself lucky to be there, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naturebeckles
    Haste is not important, Getting more tp for weapon skills faster is irrelevant and stupid. And people who think haste is useful are stupid and Opinions are like assholes everyone has them.
    obvious troll is obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naturebeckles View Post
    But then I will die because the mob is crit hitting me or using a TP move at the same time that I'm changing gear for a weapon skill, causing my mage to not be able to cure me. Then I die and lose all my tp anyway.

    I still win.

    Um... then your mage doesn't have macros set up right... still amazes me that mages don't use the tags to select party/alliance members with their cures. Also...with all the macro banks available now, it's easy to have a macro set for that oh Sh!t I can't shed hate and swap in gear for survival.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naturebeckles View Post
    I did not miss it. But I don't gear swap for weapon skills. I'm not a moron who yells at mages for letting me die even though it's my own fault because I gear swapped and they couldn't cure me. I see it happen all the time to other people and after playing this game for three years, it makes me laugh now.
    I play WHM. I don't have any problem with melee blinking. I don't use any game "enhancements". You apparently have had only bad WHM to accompany your bad THF.
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