Haste and You... A guide to the misinformed.

[cidbahamut]

Your thin skin doesn't make the other posters in this thread any less correct, it just makes you look like a jerk.

[Rambus]

Well, yes I am actually. I have no problem whatsoever with the Math. I'm not going to sit here and actually argue Math or game mechanics. I know there are people like you and Frost who are way smarter than me with that stuff.

But, as I will always maintain - gear choice is mainly done over the opinion each person has about what gear is best for them based on how they play, what they're goals are, whether they care about outperforming other players or not, and etc. Even their race makes a different. An Elvaan BLM will need to stack more INT than other races because their natural base INT is lower than other races. That's just an example. Thought I do appreciate Frost's original post and subsequent replies, especially to me... being from a teaching standpoint and not just telling me I'm a "bad player" for not gear swapping and having a heavy haste/tp setup, I may not change the way I play. Simply because I've never really cared about other players outperforming me. At the end of the day, the mobs still die, battles and missions are still won, and even if I'm just an "average" player, I'm ok with that. Maybe getting offended easily over being called a "bad player" was my downfall last night. However, i'm sure I'm not the only person in the world who would take offense to being called a bad player as being a fact based solely on gear choices.

meny forum people are very picky and try to stress macros, if you look at the SCH board how I posted my SCH macros you know how crazy some of us can be to be perfectionist.

sometimes it can make or brake you, in lowamn situations the results of macroing like that become more apperent.

to me having a TP and WS macros these days are somewhat basic and requred, but thats just how i view things ( again take a look what i posted on my SCH macros, so you get the idea how much work i put into performace). ( people can have setups for different WS like how war use to have a ws set for raging rush because its crt and there was other times kings justace was better so they set up some different ws gear for that, that is something I do not expect, but nice to have, shows more pride in the job.) Then you have people that go even further that have PDT, MDT and other more situational gear.

telling people how to play never goes well, you feel people are telling you that your gimp for not using macros and people feel your trying to be a troll for going about the math statments and such

[Naturebeckles]

meny forum people are very picky and try to stress macros, if you look at the SCH board how I posted my SCH macros you know how crazy some of us can be to be perfectionist.

sometimes it can make or brake you, in lowamn situations the results of macroing like that become more apperent.

to me having a TP and WS macros these days are somewhat basic and requred, but thats just how i view things ( again take a look what i posted on my SCH macros, so you get the idea how much work i put into performace). ( people can have setups for different WS like how war use to have a ws set for raging rush because its crt and there was other times kings justace was better so they set up some different ws gear for that, that is something I do not expect, but nice to have, shows more pride in the job.) Then you have people that go even further that have PDT, MDT and other more situational gear.

telling people how to play never goes well, you feel people are telling you that your gimp for not using macros and people feel your trying to be a troll for going about the math statments and such

It was never about the Math for me except for I thought it was funny there was so much discussion going on about it. I mean, maybe it's just the people I've observed on my server, but I've watched other thfs solo mobs in the same area as me, as thf/dnc or with several gear changing macros because they haste and then WS and some of them have a lower survivability rate as me. I've watched them die soloing while I'm barely having any trouble. Those people make me laugh. Maybe what they do is good for a party setup when they're not having to tank mobs solo. But I see somebody like that, who doesn't realize you may not be able to do the same thing solo that you can in a party and I can't say they're a better player than me just because they swap gear for WS's and go with a haste/tp build when they're not WSing. It's never been about the Math for me. Likewise, it was easy for me to get irritated at people calling me a bad player just because I don't play that way. I don't see it as a basic thing to do. I see it as a player game choice. I don't really care if you outperform me as a player. That doesn't make me any less smart. Maybe I'm just lazy. Doesn't make me a bad player though.

[cidbahamut]

So what would make a bad player in your estimation then? Or are there no bad players in the game?

[HFX7686]

It was never about the Math for me except for I thought it was funny there was so much discussion going on about it. I mean, maybe it's just the people I've observed on my server, but I've watched other thfs solo mobs in the same area as me, as thf/dnc or with several gear changing macros because they haste and then WS and some of them have a lower survivability rate as me. I've watched them die soloing while I'm barely having any trouble. Those people make me laugh. Maybe what they do is good for a party setup when they're not having to tank mobs solo. But I see somebody like that, who doesn't realize you may not be able to do the same thing solo that you can in a party and I can't say they're a better player than me just because they swap gear for WS's and go with a haste/tp build when they're not WSing. It's never been about the Math for me. Likewise, it was easy for me to get irritated at people calling me a bad player just because I don't play that way. I don't see it as a basic thing to do. I see it as a player game choice. I don't really care if you outperform me as a player. That doesn't make me any less smart. Maybe I'm just lazy. Doesn't make me a bad player though.

Eyeballed it.

[Rambus]

It was never about the Math for me except for I thought it was funny there was so much discussion going on about it. I mean, maybe it's just the people I've observed on my server, but I've watched other thfs solo mobs in the same area as me, as thf/dnc or with several gear changing macros because they haste and then WS and some of them have a lower survivability rate as me. I've watched them die soloing while I'm barely having any trouble. Those people make me laugh. Maybe what they do is good for a party setup when they're not having to tank mobs solo. But I see somebody like that, who doesn't realize you may not be able to do the same thing solo that you can in a party and I can't say they're a better player than me just because they swap gear for WS's and go with a haste/tp build when they're not WSing. It's never been about the Math for me. Likewise, it was easy for me to get irritated at people calling me a bad player just because I don't play that way. I don't see it as a basic thing to do. I see it as a player game choice. I don't really care if you outperform me as a player. That doesn't make me any less smart. Maybe I'm just lazy. Doesn't make me a bad player though.

why would someone want to wair full haste soloing as a thf/dnc? i would think you would want evade gear at some point.

there is a time and place for everything and thats anther aspect of good and bad, knowing what to use and when

[Naturebeckles]

So what would make a bad player in your estimation then? Or are there no bad players in the game?

Of course I see people in the game that I would personally label as a bad player, but it's still just my opinion. Most of those people get on the game once every couple of months and play for just a few hours. So at that point, it's not really a matter of they suck... they just don't play enough to learn how to be better at what they do.

[cidbahamut]

Of course I see people in the game that I would personally label as a bad player, but it's still just my opinion. Most of those people get on the game once every couple of months and play for just a few hours. So at that point, it's not really a matter of they suck... they just don't play enough to learn how to be better at what they do.

So the issue is that they are not improving their performance?

[Naturebeckles]

why would someone want to wair full haste soloing as a thf/dnc? i would think you would want evade gear at some point.

there is a time and place for everything and thats anther aspect of good and bad, knowing what to use and when

EXACTLY. I do know what to use and when. I told some long time players... GOOD players... who are some of my whms & rdms who didn't know about <stpt> and <stal>. Two of them said they would try it. I'll most likely work in more haste/tp gear in party situations now. My triple attack merits are capped and I wear a brutal earring for double attack... so I do build my tp fast in other ways too.

[Rambus]

yeah this is getting off couse, can you admit in some wrong now after i explained it? this si why people think you are trolling and SE said in fourm ToS its bad to go too much off topic