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    Player Naturebeckles's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rambus View Post
    meny forum people are very picky and try to stress macros, if you look at the SCH board how I posted my SCH macros you know how crazy some of us can be to be perfectionist.

    sometimes it can make or brake you, in lowamn situations the results of macroing like that become more apperent.

    to me having a TP and WS macros these days are somewhat basic and requred, but thats just how i view things ( again take a look what i posted on my SCH macros, so you get the idea how much work i put into performace). ( people can have setups for different WS like how war use to have a ws set for raging rush because its crt and there was other times kings justace was better so they set up some different ws gear for that, that is something I do not expect, but nice to have, shows more pride in the job.) Then you have people that go even further that have PDT, MDT and other more situational gear.

    telling people how to play never goes well, you feel people are telling you that your gimp for not using macros and people feel your trying to be a troll for going about the math statments and such

    It was never about the Math for me except for I thought it was funny there was so much discussion going on about it. I mean, maybe it's just the people I've observed on my server, but I've watched other thfs solo mobs in the same area as me, as thf/dnc or with several gear changing macros because they haste and then WS and some of them have a lower survivability rate as me. I've watched them die soloing while I'm barely having any trouble. Those people make me laugh. Maybe what they do is good for a party setup when they're not having to tank mobs solo. But I see somebody like that, who doesn't realize you may not be able to do the same thing solo that you can in a party and I can't say they're a better player than me just because they swap gear for WS's and go with a haste/tp build when they're not WSing. It's never been about the Math for me. Likewise, it was easy for me to get irritated at people calling me a bad player just because I don't play that way. I don't see it as a basic thing to do. I see it as a player game choice. I don't really care if you outperform me as a player. That doesn't make me any less smart. Maybe I'm just lazy. Doesn't make me a bad player though.
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    Level 99 jobs: THF, WAR, SAM, SMN, WHM. Haste is overrated. Ok. Not really. But that's what you all think I believe anyway.

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    Player HFX7686's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naturebeckles View Post
    It was never about the Math for me except for I thought it was funny there was so much discussion going on about it. I mean, maybe it's just the people I've observed on my server, but I've watched other thfs solo mobs in the same area as me, as thf/dnc or with several gear changing macros because they haste and then WS and some of them have a lower survivability rate as me. I've watched them die soloing while I'm barely having any trouble. Those people make me laugh. Maybe what they do is good for a party setup when they're not having to tank mobs solo. But I see somebody like that, who doesn't realize you may not be able to do the same thing solo that you can in a party and I can't say they're a better player than me just because they swap gear for WS's and go with a haste/tp build when they're not WSing. It's never been about the Math for me. Likewise, it was easy for me to get irritated at people calling me a bad player just because I don't play that way. I don't see it as a basic thing to do. I see it as a player game choice. I don't really care if you outperform me as a player. That doesn't make me any less smart. Maybe I'm just lazy. Doesn't make me a bad player though.
    Eyeballed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naturebeckles View Post
    It was never about the Math for me except for I thought it was funny there was so much discussion going on about it. I mean, maybe it's just the people I've observed on my server, but I've watched other thfs solo mobs in the same area as me, as thf/dnc or with several gear changing macros because they haste and then WS and some of them have a lower survivability rate as me. I've watched them die soloing while I'm barely having any trouble. Those people make me laugh. Maybe what they do is good for a party setup when they're not having to tank mobs solo. But I see somebody like that, who doesn't realize you may not be able to do the same thing solo that you can in a party and I can't say they're a better player than me just because they swap gear for WS's and go with a haste/tp build when they're not WSing. It's never been about the Math for me. Likewise, it was easy for me to get irritated at people calling me a bad player just because I don't play that way. I don't see it as a basic thing to do. I see it as a player game choice. I don't really care if you outperform me as a player. That doesn't make me any less smart. Maybe I'm just lazy. Doesn't make me a bad player though.
    why would someone want to wair full haste soloing as a thf/dnc? i would think you would want evade gear at some point.

    there is a time and place for everything and thats anther aspect of good and bad, knowing what to use and when
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    Spending Gil = Game balance, next question please tia
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    They're reading and agreeing that these are very good ideas.... to be implemented to rune fencer.

    Just like any good suggestions in the RDM thread get applied to SCH.

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    Player Naturebeckles's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rambus View Post
    why would someone want to wair full haste soloing as a thf/dnc? i would think you would want evade gear at some point.

    there is a time and place for everything and thats anther aspect of good and bad, knowing what to use and when
    EXACTLY. I do know what to use and when. I told some long time players... GOOD players... who are some of my whms & rdms who didn't know about <stpt> and <stal>. Two of them said they would try it. I'll most likely work in more haste/tp gear in party situations now. My triple attack merits are capped and I wear a brutal earring for double attack... so I do build my tp fast in other ways too.
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    Level 99 jobs: THF, WAR, SAM, SMN, WHM. Haste is overrated. Ok. Not really. But that's what you all think I believe anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naturebeckles View Post
    I mean, maybe it's just the people I've observed on my server, but I've watched other thfs solo mobs in the same area as me, as thf/dnc or with several gear changing macros because they haste and then WS and some of them have a lower survivability rate as me. I've watched them die soloing while I'm barely having any trouble.
    You can have the best gear and a billion macros and still suck as a player. You can also have a bad day and get unlucky with a tp move or something similar. A well-geared thf who knows wtf they are doing and that has gear swap macros will have a HIGHER survivability rate than you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Naturebeckles View Post
    Maybe I'm just lazy. Doesn't make me a bad player though.
    When it's being lazy to the extent of NOT gear swapping - yes it does make you a bad player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler
    In the FFXI universe, the down of Phoenix is so fine that it quickly broke down into a sort of dust. Smaller than dust, actually. A barely visible particle.

    This down was carried by the winds of Vana'diel. Some people breathed it in and contracted Phoenix Downs Syndrome. Some of those people post on this very board.

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