Haste and You... A guide to the misinformed.

[Sinthetic]

I'm a haste Junkie <<<<

[Kagato]

I'm a haste Junkie <<<<

NO! *kicks shin with steel-toed boot*

You pack on that CHR right the hell now!

[Sinthetic]

NO! *kicks shin with steel-toed boot*

You pack on that CHR right the hell now!

heheheeh i got my Zelus Tiara 4 hours before they shutdown the servers o.O

[Dfoley]

Nice initial post but it leaves a lot out.

1) Those charts/tables for haste assume no dual wield/martial arts which is nice for comparison, but really underestimates the majority of the population. AKA a thf/nin isnt really going from 24 to 25%, they are going from 44 to 45 (made up for example)

2) 80% haste isnt a 400% increase in attack rounds, at 240 dly you have 15 /min, with 80% haste you have 75. Thats a 500% increase. You had the right calculation when you translated it to hits.

The TLDNR version:
Haste at smaller values is pretty crap and you might not notice 22 to 23 % haste. Add on bard songs, whm, and dualwield/martial arts and going from 79 to 80% haste is huge.

[Rambus]

keep this in mind when you say you have a 400% or 500% ( i'm a bit lost in why the comment but i want to point this fact out to make sure it should be one or the other)

when you say 100% increase it means your total is oringal amount times 2 for outcome , like wise 400% means orginal vaule times 5.

[Naturebeckles]

Maybe you should take your own advice from another thread.

Oh yeah? Tell me where I actually bashed another player's game play on here.

Oh wait, don't. Because I'm tired of talking to people who say I'm a bad player for not playing the way they do. If you're one of those people who is about to open your mouth and do that, then don't bother talking to me.

[Naturebeckles]

You'll never find me making insults against anyone who asks for help and that applies to most people here. Only time I'll make "attacks" is when someone is posting just to hinder things, like Beckles whose entire point of posting was to hinder discussion/spread of information.

If her approach was "I haven't been swapping gear or using much Haste up to this point - is it really as good as people say it is?" etc then the outcome of this thread would've been much different.

I highly doubt that. Maybe YOU would have reacted differently. But I think a lot of the people I was talking to last night would have been the same jerkfaces regardless.

[Vivik]

Oh yeah? Tell me where I actually bashed another player's game play on here.

Oh wait, don't. Because I'm tired of talking to people who say I'm a bad player for not playing the way they do. If you're one of those people who is about to open your mouth and do that, then don't bother talking to me.

/sigh... Lets see how many times I can repost this..

I can't believe one of you posted a guide which spawned this entire pointless discussion about the specifics over haste. Maybe I'll just stick to not being a haste whore....

Your first response of the thread, directly insulting someones play style for using haste....

Need I say more?

[Tamoa]

It's mathematically proven that capping gear haste will make you a better DD as it will make you deal more damage in the same amount of time as someone with little to no gear haste. How Naturebeckles can even argue with that, is beyond me.

Not using haste gear and not gearswap makes you an inferior DD. In fact it makes you an inferior player as far as performance and efficiency goes, whether you are on a DD job or on a mage job.

The "I don't gear swap because then I blink and mages won't be able to cure me" excuse is pathetic.

[Naturebeckles]

/sigh... Lets see how many times I can repost this..



Your first response of the thread, directly insulting someones play style for using haste....

Need I say more?

Uh no no no no no. I was NOT insulting ANYBODY for using haste. I saw the whole discussion about the all the specifics of the math of how haste works as kind of pointless. I'm not saying Frost's guide was pointless. But there were pages of people agreeing/disagreeing about how that math worked. I never said haste was bad or criticized anyone for using haste gear. Not once will you see me say any of that. It's taking everything I have right now to not insult you over your reading skills.