Frost, man I just wanted to say you're awesome for going through all the trouble to post that and still read all this thread, although it has been entertaining to read through at some points, I loved the "We'll jump off that cliff faster than you because we have haste" comment, you've basically laid out a great explanation of haste that can't really be discussed. Any chances you could crunch some numbers for ATK or Double Attack? Someone in my LS said that adding DA was basically the same for your DPS as adding haste, any idea if that's true?