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    Quote Originally Posted by wish12oz View Post
    March +4 (march+3 instrument, and af3+2 hands) is 15.5% and 12.5% basically, +25% gear haste, 15% spell, 10% hasso leaves you at 78% saddly =|
    Depending on how sword strap works, you may be able to cap delay reduction using it, but there's never been any testing done to show if it stacks with haste or works like dual wield and would give you 3% off your new delay after haste is worked out.

    Personally, I dunno which is true, I never even thought about it until recently, I always just assumed it stacked with haste until someone tried to say it didn't, but even then, no one has tested it, so no one can say.
    Could add Haste Samba no?
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    If you don't understand why Haste is so important, or if you don't think it is:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/1847-Haste-and-You...-A-guide-to-the-misinformed.

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    Iirc, there has been testing done with Sword Strap and it doesn't add to Haste. It's a 3% reduction to the base delay of your 2H weapon, like Dual Wield reduces the delay of your 1H weapon. Haste reduces that further.

    And yeah, even /DNC Haste Samba caps 2H delay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrth View Post
    Iirc, there has been testing done with Sword Strap and it doesn't add to Haste. It's a 3% reduction to the base delay of your 2H weapon, like Dual Wield reduces the delay of your 1H weapon. Haste reduces that further.

    And yeah, even /DNC Haste Samba caps 2H delay.
    Where/when and please link me if I didnt already say it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wish12oz View Post
    Where/when and please link me if I didnt already say it.
    Somewhere in the "pleasantly searchable" bowels of BG, pretty much at the time of release. If I was a betting man, my money would be that Kirschy at least assisted with the test in some way, if she didn't do it herself. Good luck finding it, but that's how it works.

    If you want to test it yourself, I'd recommend using Drain Samba II as an indicator of your total delay. Put yourself on a break point so 3% Haste would reduce your max HP Drained, but -3% Delay would not. Do a control with the delay in question, put on the Grip, see what happens! I guess I should put the disclaimer that I'm somewhat Dancer-centric, but this seems like the easiest way to me.
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    sword strap affect TP/hit, no need to test further
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    Quote Originally Posted by hiko View Post
    sword strap affect TP/hit, no need to test further
    This is only a problem if you don't account for it in your x-hit build.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wenslydale View Post
    This is only a problem if you don't account for it in your x-hit build.
    never said it was a problem, just replyed on discussion if it adds to haste or DR
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    I hate to be pedantic (ok so I don't), but learn what D.O.T stands for!
    Dot is damage over time baby

    So using this formula, can a 2H user (aside from drk during last resort) reach the 80%?
    (1-[10% Hasso + 3% Sword Grip])*(1 - 76.5 haste) = 0.20445
    facepalm
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    Dot is damage over time baby
    That's the point. You said DoT over time. Unless you're referring to the derivative of DoT, you were being redundant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    That's the point. You said DoT over time. Unless you're referring to the derivative of DoT, you were being redundant.
    Precisely^^
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