Haste and You... A guide to the misinformed.

[hiko]

SO in terms that the average player can understand:

Haste > all

stop being stupid and using 24% haste with perle hands/aurore hands when you can cap it with dusk.

i'll go further:
stop being stupid and using 25% showned haste with perle hands/aurore hands when you can true cap it with dusk. (haste gear value being a proximation from /1024 values you 're not really capped when you gear show 25)

[Arcon]

i'll go further:
stop being stupid and using 25% showned haste with perle hands/aurore hands when you can true cap it with dusk. (haste gear value being a proximation from /1024 values you 're not really capped when you gear show 25)

Depends on the gear actually. Some gear even gives more than it says due to rounding deviations.

[Sparthos]

SO in terms that the average player can understand:

Haste > all

stop being stupid and using 24% haste with perle hands/aurore hands when you can cap it with dusk.

I'll never fault someone for foregoing Dusk hands for the alternatives that don't decrease movement speed.

Sure, you can use certain processes to get around that problem but really if they're 1% off on Haste, I could care less.

[MarkovChain]

ITT, people min/maxing in abyssea. Just brew it.

[wish12oz]

ITT, people min/maxing in abyssea. Just brew it.

Leave it to the guy who full times full usukane on MNK to say improving your gear is pointless. lol

[Octaviane]

I would just like to thank the OP for some extremely helpful information. I am no math whiz, but you made it easy to understand.

[Babekeke]

I'm really sorry if this has already been posted, but I only just saw the thread and got as far as the first 8 pages of flaming Naturebeckles and gave up reading.

OP states 80% haste is the maximum delay for attack rounds, but does this include dual wield, or can you get 80% haste and then Dual Wield on top of that?

[Byrth]

I'm really sorry if this has already been posted, but I only just saw the thread and got as far as the first 8 pages of flaming Naturebeckles and gave up reading.

OP states 80% haste is the maximum delay for attack rounds, but does this include dual wield, or can you get 80% haste and then Dual Wield on top of that?

It is the total delay reduction cap, so it includes Dual Wield, Martial Arts, and gear with -Delay % on it.

[Babekeke]

It is the total delay reduction cap, so it includes Dual Wield, Martial Arts, and gear with -Delay % on it.

So if I have this right, according to the OP:

52.5% - 111 ---------- Gear + Haste + Victory March

+DW3 from nin sub = 77.5%
+Suppanomimi or Raider's Boomerang or other DW+3%+ gear = attack speed cap and no need for a 2nd march or haste samba?

That's quite interesting if it's the case, and useful to know when I play brd if I'm just with a thf, nin, dnc, mnk party.

[hiko]

So if I have this right, according to the OP:


+DW3 from nin sub = 77.5%
+Suppanomimi or Raider's Boomerang or other DW+3%+ gear = attack speed cap and no need for a 2nd march or haste samba?

That's quite interesting if it's the case, and useful to know when I play brd if I'm just with a thf, nin, dnc, mnk party.

no because haste and dual wield are not aditive but multiplicative