Haste and You... A guide to the misinformed.

[hiko]

SO in terms that the average player can understand:

Haste > all

stop being stupid and using 24% haste with perle hands/aurore hands when you can cap it with dusk.

i'll go further:
stop being stupid and using 25% showned haste with perle hands/aurore hands when you can true cap it with dusk. (haste gear value being a proximation from /1024 values you 're not really capped when you gear show 25)

[Arcon]

i'll go further:
stop being stupid and using 25% showned haste with perle hands/aurore hands when you can true cap it with dusk. (haste gear value being a proximation from /1024 values you 're not really capped when you gear show 25)

Depends on the gear actually. Some gear even gives more than it says due to rounding deviations.

[Sparthos]

SO in terms that the average player can understand:

Haste > all

stop being stupid and using 24% haste with perle hands/aurore hands when you can cap it with dusk.

I'll never fault someone for foregoing Dusk hands for the alternatives that don't decrease movement speed.

Sure, you can use certain processes to get around that problem but really if they're 1% off on Haste, I could care less.

[MarkovChain]

ITT, people min/maxing in abyssea. Just brew it.

[wish12oz]

ITT, people min/maxing in abyssea. Just brew it.

Leave it to the guy who full times full usukane on MNK to say improving your gear is pointless. lol

[MarkovChain]

Leave it to the guy who full times full usukane on MNK to say improving your gear is pointless. lol

Aren't you tired of throwing random and false claims on the forums. Seriously, you mad™. Min maxing in abyssea is really for losers. I can't think of a single normal mob that can survive 1 full Weapon skill which means any WS macro is useless. I'd say 99% of the time you save TP so as not to trigger "ruby" which as a consequence makes haste half as useful as what it should be, since haste no longer affects WS frequency like it should be. The "only" (though still great) benefit of haste is melee-dot-over-time and the lolz about killing a mobs 0.1 faster. Nevermind cleaves and brews where you gear is 100% useless. I forgot to add that 99% of the NMs you do are either done

* Turning your back until yellow is proced,
* Using gimp weapons to trigger red,
* Brewed in pack of 10 for reward/effort efficiency.

To make you rage a little more think about this : If a group A and group B try to build say FULL AF3+2 plus an empyrean, the fastest to get it will be the group that has the most movement speed. Mazurka > march. Discuss.

God I'm glad abyssea is over. Maybe we can use our macros now.

[RaenRyong]

Aren't you tired of throwing random and false claims on the forums. Seriously, you mad™. Min maxing in abyssea is really for losers. I can't think of a single normal mob that can survive 1 full Weapon skill which means any WS macro is useless. I'd say 99% of the time you save TP so as not to trigger "ruby" which as a consequence makes haste half as useful as what it should be, since haste no longer affects WS frequency like it should be. The "only" (though still great) benefit of haste is melee-dot-over-time and the lolz about killing a mobs 0.1 faster. Nevermind cleaves and brews where you gear is 100% useless. I forgot to add that 99% of the NMs you do are either done

* Turning your back until yellow is proced,
* Using gimp weapons to trigger red,
* Brewed in pack of 10 for reward/effort efficiency.

To make you rage a little more think about this : If a group A and group B try to build say FULL AF3+2 plus an empyrean, the fastest to get it will be the group that has the most movement speed. Mazurka > march. Discuss.

God I'm glad abyssea is over. Maybe we can use our macros now.

So what was the point of min-maxing in Salvage again? As soon as you can clear it consistently (not hard), it is useless. Gear is 100% useless on cleaves? Yeah, cause Charged Whisker oneshots without gear...

Whatever you like to think, min-maxing still helps a great deal and saves a lot of time. FFXI as a game has never been remotely challenging enough to REQUIRE min-maxing... nostalgia goggles again.

To make you rage a little more think about this : If a group A and group B try to build say FULL AF3+2 plus an empyrean, the fastest to get it will be the group that has the most movement speed. Mazurka > march. Discuss.

That's funny, I would've thought the group that used March on fights and Mazurka in-between would do better.

[Babekeke]

melee-dot-over-time

I hate to be pedantic (ok so I don't), but learn what D.O.T stands for!

So... your base delay is first reduced by Delay reduction gear or Dual Wield/Martial Arts. This value is used to calculate TP gain. Then Haste is applied, and the new value is used as your attack speed (delay/60 = time in seconds between attacks).

So using this formula, can a 2H user (aside from drk during last resort) reach the 80%?

(1-[10% Hasso + 3% Sword Grip])*(1 - 76.5 haste) = 0.20445

OK, it's close, but not quite there. Bolter's roll would need to be added with anything but a 9 (unlucky roll) for 2%+.

I don't see any other weapon delay gear on wiki, but there is probably some that isn't linked to the delay page. Not sure if SAM gets any bonus to hasso for extra weapon delay-, but I'm mainly interested for my WAR anyway.

[hiko]

I hate to be pedantic (ok so I don't), but learn what D.O.T stands for!



So using this formula, can a 2H user (aside from drk during last resort) reach the 80%?

(1-[10% Hasso + 3% Sword Grip])*(1 - 76.5 haste) = 0.20445

OK, it's close, but not quite there. Bolter's roll would need to be added with anything but a 9 (unlucky roll) for 2%+.

I don't see any other weapon delay gear on wiki, but there is probably some that isn't linked to the delay page. Not sure if SAM gets any bonus to hasso for extra weapon delay-, but I'm mainly interested for my WAR anyway.

hasso is ja haste it is not DR (hasso doesn't affect tp/hit)

and can still add blitzer roll for more DR

[MarkovChain]

I hate to be pedantic (ok so I don't), but learn what D.O.T stands for!

Dot is damage over time baby

So using this formula, can a 2H user (aside from drk during last resort) reach the 80%?
(1-[10% Hasso + 3% Sword Grip])*(1 - 76.5 haste) = 0.20445

facepalm