Haste and You... A guide to the misinformed.

[Alkalinehoe]

any tips on coaxing an unruly mage into pleasuring me with his haste spell?

Kick him and get a better one?

[Greatguardian]

any tips on coaxing an unruly mage into pleasuring me with his haste spell?

Serious reply just in case: Ask them politely for it if they haven't cast it on you, as that should be one of their most fundamental responsibilities in a party. If they start giving you crap for it, you can choose either to talk to them or to give up and just assume that you are dealing with someone who can't be helped. If they can't handle hasting, they are probably lacking in other areas of magery as well and you'd be better off just avoiding them in the future.

But because you're a horrid troll: Get out.

Edit: Also, what he said ^

[Fondle]

Also I enjoy using the SEA DAUGHTER aTMA due to the fact my only reliable means to obtain tactical points is the regeneration it offers, would wearing a maximum haste build on my ridill/joyeuse warrior be enough to counteract this "Mountainous Slow" it imposes upon me?

[Alkalinehoe]

Also I enjoy using the SEA DAUGHTER aTMA due to the fact my only reliable means to obtain tactical points is the regeneration it offers, would wearing a maximum haste build on my ridill/joyeuse warrior be enough to counteract this "Mountainous Slow" it imposes upon me?

No. Since you're already adding so much slow, I'm sure Slow+ caps at 25% too, so you're just better off fulltiming hecatomb gear so you can hit harder.

[Cream_Soda]

2) 80% haste isnt a 400% increase in attack rounds, at 240 dly you have 15 /min, with 80% haste you have 75. Thats a 500% increase. You had the right calculation when you translated it to hits.

Incorrect. It's a 400% increase.

Let's look at 100 delay.

80% haste

100 x .2 = 20 delay.


Ok, Now, 10 attack rounds before haste.

100 delay x 10 attack rounds = 1000 delay.

How many attacks does 20 delay get in 1000 units of delay?

1000/20 = 50 attack rounds.

50/10 = 500%. 500% isn't the increase. It's 500% of 10.

10 is 100% of 10. The increase from 100% to 500% is 400%

50 is 500% of 10, but it's not a 500% increase to 10. It's a 400% increase of 10.


I don't like how I worded that, so I'll try again.

Let's say 50 = 500%. Let's cut that into 5 equal slices.

10 10 10 10 10. Each slice is 100%

100 delay has one slice of 10.
20 delay has 5 slices of 10

4 slices is the increase. 4 slices is 400%.


Edit:
To make it really simple.

Let's look at 10 and 5.

5 x 2 = 10. 10 is a 100% increase of 5. (because you double 5 to get 10).

10/5 = 200%. It's 200% of 5, but the increase is 100% because 5 is still 100% of 5, which is our base point.

[Rambus]

Incorrect. It's a 400% increase.

Let's look at 100 delay.

80% haste

100 x .2 = 20 delay.


Ok, Now, 10 attack rounds before haste.

100 delay x 10 attack rounds = 1000 delay.

How many attacks does 20 delay get in 1000 units of delay?

1000/20 = 50 attack rounds.

50/10 = 500%. 500% isn't the increase. It's 500% of 10.

10 is 100% of 10. The increase from 100% to 500% is 400%

50 is 500% of 10, but it's not a 500% increase to 10. It's a 400% increase of 10.


I don't like how I worded that, so I'll try again.

Let's say 50 = 500%. Let's cut that into 5 equal slices.

10 10 10 10 10. Each slice is 100%

100 delay has one slice of 10.
20 delay has 5 slices of 10

4 slices is the increase. 4 slices is 400%.


Edit:
To make it really simple.

Let's look at 10 and 5.

5 x 2 = 10. 10 is a 100% increase of 5. (because you double 5 to get 10).

10/5 = 200%. It's 200% of 5, but the increase is 100% because 5 is still 100% of 5, which is our base point.

Guess i was right about pointing out what 400% increase ment

its 40/10 for the increase

you leave out that 10 because your stating the increase, so you cannot include the original vaule

I find this as a troll post:

Also I enjoy using the SEA DAUGHTER aTMA due to the fact my only reliable means to obtain tactical points is the regeneration it offers, would wearing a maximum haste build on my ridill/joyeuse warrior be enough to counteract this "Mountainous Slow" it imposes upon me?

[Cream_Soda]

lol, I found an even easier way to explain it now that I did the math w/ smaller numbers.

Compare 6 to 5, a 20% increase.

6/5 = 1.2. x100 = 120%.

The .2 is the actual increase, that one in front of it is a place holder.

[Nepharite]

Do people actually still think haste is pointless after 31 pages?

[Alkalinehoe]

Do people actually still think haste is pointless after 31 pages?

It's not that people think it's useless, it's that the players arguing against it are just lazy to properly gear their jobs.

[rog]

Do people actually still think haste is pointless after 31 pages?

10 posts per page would make me cry.

Almost as much as i am already because yes, people still think it's useless.