Haste and You... A guide to the misinformed.

[Kuishen]

Naturebeckles is doing it right, swaping gear gets you killed.
so V.helm or af3 head for fudo sam?
one is good for fudo but other is good for the haste I can't choice one.
Thought this would be a good place to ask.

Just HAD to muck up this page didn't you?

[Frost]

Just HAD to muck up this page didn't you?

Calm down it's just another product of the 4chan generation. They're harmless lol. It's trolling in good fun. The only drawback is they are rarely if ever as amusing as they think they are.

[Gunit]

Calm down it's just another product of the 4chan generation. They're harmless lol. It's trolling in good fun. The only drawback is they are rarely if ever as amusing as they think they are.

I don't understand what you mean? I am just looking for some help with gear.

[Frost]

I don't understand what you mean? I am just looking for some help with gear.

You're precious.

[Gunit]

/sigh guess I have to wait until Naturebeckles is around to help me.

[Ragmar]

If swapping gear gets you killed your mages are doing it wrong. If you dont macro gear swap TP/WS/Haste/Eva you're doing it wrong. The fact that even one person posted here who doesn't accept this is whats wrong with the community today. Not having the best gear in the game does not make you a bad player. Not using the best gear available to you and not understanding some of the most widely accepted and understood game mechanics does though.

[Tezz]

Question: Why do you NOT swap gear or entertain the idea of adjusting yourself to new ideas? Why would you not seek optimization to be better at what you do (not to be the best, but better for yourself)?
"Be, all that you can be!"(sorry couldn't resist)

Before, it was that blinking gets you killed. Now that you understand <stal>, <stpt> you can see how a competent player would adapt. If this is not the case, then you must accept that you are around unprogressive players. In this case you are being held back by others and if you accept that, then it is fine.
But, if you were outside the typical "Crowd" who behaves this way, it would be in your favor to adapt your macros for the competent.
(this is not meant to convey that your crowd is "gimp")

Now this begs to question. Would you adapt in a different situation as presented? If not, why?
It's true you could likely do everything in the game without any haste gear, but that is not what we're talking about. It's about bettering yourself to optimize gameplay that essentially speeds the process up for everyone around you. Why would you deny this?

The ONLY argument i can see out of this is that you pay to play your own way (fine, bla bla bla) and that you're just having Fun. I can understand this to an extent, but let's be honest. Dynamis or ANY event in FF11 gets OLD relatively fast. Then everyone just wants to finish and get it over with ASAP. This is where optimizing gameplay becomes the benefit for everyone.

This again leads to another question. Do you (and people around you) get tired of content or are you happy going at a slower pace than others' around you?

If you answered "Yes", then this is fine and dandy for everyone who is with you. Oh NO!, You've been doing content for so long that your friends/members are leaving the shell. Well that sux, at least you had a good journey while it lasted. Now you need to find/recruit more members of the same mindset(this is where you will likely run into members joining/quitting faster than normal). If you succeed over this, even better.

In closing, sure it's your decision to play and find like-minded people that others' may call "gimp", but should you require the attention/assistance of us who do not agree, we only ask that you adapt with us in the event that we might team-up and play together.
Please do not consider players seeking to better themselves "elite" just because they want to better themselves.

[Gunit]

got 4 people?

[Xilk]

Thanx for the info Frost. Its nice to have a simple table that actually shows the improvements at different intervals.

To all the Elitists out there (not including Frost who has quite shown he is not), If you want to "improve" the player base. Don't be a jerk. You are damaging your own cause. You whine and whine about how sucky some players are, then when there is someone willing to listen for a bit, you completely turn them off w/ personal attacks and insults. This says you don't really want other players to improve. What you really want is for them to stay poorer so that you can have an excuse to pretend you are better than they are. its pretty sad.. as in pathetic. If I picked some info about you whether real or made up to insult you up and down, you wouldn't want to listen to a word I said either. It wouldn't matter if any of it was true or not.

There are still many players who do not understand how haste works, or at least they will not know all the implications. Before the level cap increase, filling out haste gear for your job was more challenging. thats not an excuse for the trolling in this thread... She could have been wiser about it too, but she was too self-conscious about being called 'bad' or and idiot.

[ericnuke]

Love the in-depth telling of haste with the chart and all. Now, can you make one for all the SAMs that think they are awesome, but don't WS in same stp gear as they tp in?