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    Player Xilk's Avatar
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    Thanx for the info Frost. Its nice to have a simple table that actually shows the improvements at different intervals.

    To all the Elitists out there (not including Frost who has quite shown he is not), If you want to "improve" the player base. Don't be a jerk. You are damaging your own cause. You whine and whine about how sucky some players are, then when there is someone willing to listen for a bit, you completely turn them off w/ personal attacks and insults. This says you don't really want other players to improve. What you really want is for them to stay poorer so that you can have an excuse to pretend you are better than they are. its pretty sad.. as in pathetic. If I picked some info about you whether real or made up to insult you up and down, you wouldn't want to listen to a word I said either. It wouldn't matter if any of it was true or not.

    There are still many players who do not understand how haste works, or at least they will not know all the implications. Before the level cap increase, filling out haste gear for your job was more challenging. thats not an excuse for the trolling in this thread... She could have been wiser about it too, but she was too self-conscious about being called 'bad' or and idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilk View Post
    Thanx for the info Frost. Its nice to have a simple table that actually shows the improvements at different intervals.

    To all the Elitists out there (not including Frost who has quite shown he is not), If you want to "improve" the player base. Don't be a jerk. You are damaging your own cause. You whine and whine about how sucky some players are, then when there is someone willing to listen for a bit, you completely turn them off w/ personal attacks and insults. This says you don't really want other players to improve. What you really want is for them to stay poorer so that you can have an excuse to pretend you are better than they are. its pretty sad.. as in pathetic. If I picked some info about you whether real or made up to insult you up and down, you wouldn't want to listen to a word I said either. It wouldn't matter if any of it was true or not.

    There are still many players who do not understand how haste works, or at least they will not know all the implications. Before the level cap increase, filling out haste gear for your job was more challenging. thats not an excuse for the trolling in this thread... She could have been wiser about it too, but she was too self-conscious about being called 'bad' or and idiot.
    Thank you Xilk.
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    Level 99 jobs: THF, WAR, SAM, SMN, WHM. Haste is overrated. Ok. Not really. But that's what you all think I believe anyway.

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    Love the in-depth telling of haste with the chart and all. Now, can you make one for all the SAMs that think they are awesome, but don't WS in same stp gear as they tp in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericnuke View Post
    Love the in-depth telling of haste with the chart and all. Now, can you make one for all the SAMs that think they are awesome, but don't WS in same stp gear as they tp in?
    are saying sam should WS AND TP in the SAME amount of STP gear?

    Cause you would be mistaken.
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    Good Info man
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    This is hella useful. Or rather, it will be, when I hit max level.

    Is haste gear favorable for EXPing, as well as end-game content? I'm still mid 40s- early 50s on the jobs I want to level (THF and NIN, respectively), and I want to know what I should be looking for until I do finally get up there with the big kids.
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    Player Xilk's Avatar
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    hmmm
    anyone got a haste VS DW graph for cap? would be a good quick reference tool.

    Also, what would be the minimum setups for capping delay reduction.

    Looks like brd/whm + nin or dnc would probably work.
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    I swear I have facepalmed at least once for every page in this tread, starting from around page 3. It's been a while since I've seen so much ignorance displayed in one single forum thread.

    Let me just assure all the guys here that not all female FFXI players are the same.

    My thanks to the OP for an informative post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler
    In the FFXI universe, the down of Phoenix is so fine that it quickly broke down into a sort of dust. Smaller than dust, actually. A barely visible particle.

    This down was carried by the winds of Vana'diel. Some people breathed it in and contracted Phoenix Downs Syndrome. Some of those people post on this very board.

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    The whole irony of this thing is that Beckles like just as much an "elitist" as anyone else.

    I'm not against bettering myself at all. But I don't really see anything wrong with how I play either.
    The thread has shown numerous times why your style of gearing is less efficient for damage and survivability than those of others, hence showing that you are going wrong with your choices. To ignore those choices and disregard them is to actually be against bettering yourself.

    A lot of this "oh I don't need haste" talk must only come from anti-conformist mindsets that most people grow out of by their late teens. FFXI is based on numbers and math. It is not about believing in the heart of cards. Not knowing the math is fine; being shown it and rejecting it outright is not. It's quite sad to see such juvenile behavior in a supposedly grown woman.
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    @ Vivik and Dooom: Thank god you two pointed these things out for me. Had I done so, it would have been with a lot of profanity and would have gotten me banned. My self-control only goes so far. :\
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