Stop Player Bashing

[Darka]

I wear the Aurore hat and gloves because they have str dex and/or agi on them with the haste which overall helps thf better than the dusk gloves and walmart turban. (sylph term if nobody else has heard of that before).

I actually had somebody tell me that once after being invited to their party. I was mad they wouldn't let me party just because I didn't have either of those on my War. So, that's why I asked when you don't like players getting mad at you because you don't them play with you if they're poorly geared. Your version of poorly geared is different than other people's version. That was an example.

That's actually an example of choosing something worse intentionally than an easier to obtain piece. Same happened at 75, people using Askar/Ace's/Denali over Turban. 5% Haste > 4% > 3%. It's also free. The Haste alone beats whatever neglegible gain (if any) you're getting from the +DEX. That's why he kicked you.

[Naturebeckles]

That's actually an example of choosing something worse intentionally than an easier to obtain piece. Same happened at 75, people using Askar/Ace's/Denali over Turban. 5% Haste > 4% > 3%. It's also free. The Haste alone beats whatever neglegible gain (if any) you're getting from the +DEX. That's why he kicked you.

I didn't get kicked. He invited me and then changed his mind because I didn't have the maneater or ridell on my war.

To Great Guardian... I'm not sure why it's not obvious why the Aurore is better for thf. Dex and Agi is best base stats for thf for acc, evasion, trick attack, etc. So... I'm surprised that you actually asked me to explain that.

[Nepharite]

I didn't get kicked. He invited me and then changed his mind because I didn't have the maneater or ridell on my war.

To Great Guardian... I'm not sure why it's not obvious why the Aurore is better for thf. Dex and Agi is best base stats for thf for acc, evasion, trick attack, etc. So... I'm surprised that you actually asked me to explain that.

The gain from the stats will be very small compared from the increased attack rate and increased ws rate.

[Greatguardian]

To Great Guardian... I'm not sure why it's not obvious why the Aurore is better for thf. Dex and Agi is best base stats for thf for acc, evasion, trick attack, etc. So... I'm surprised that you actually asked me to explain that.

Hm? No, I didn't ask for an explanation, I had guessed the reasoning. I'm just saying, in response, Turban and Dusk are still better by a fairly large amount whether or not you swap gear at all. They are better by a greater margin if you do swap gear, of course. But then again, everything is.

[Naturebeckles]

Hm? No, I didn't ask for an explanation, I had guessed the reasoning. I'm just saying, in response, Turban and Dusk are still better by a fairly large amount whether or not you swap gear at all. They are better by a greater margin if you do swap gear, of course. But then again, everything is.

oh, well I thought somebody did...

anyway, you're telling me that dusk gloves with hp +20, attack +5 and haste +3% is better than the aurore gloves with str +4, agi +4 and haste +2% even though when I trick attack somebody wearing the aurore gloves will give me more damage?

[Sp1cyryan]

oh, well I thought somebody did...

anyway, you're telling me that dusk gloves with hp +20, attack +5 and haste +3% is better than the aurore gloves with str +4, agi +4 and haste +2% even though when I trick attack somebody wearing the aurore gloves will give me more damage?

Depends if you have better TA hands like the Schutzen Mittens.

Yes, the Dusk are better than the Aurore though as has been stated and given slightly more in depth details.

[cidbahamut]

anyway, you're telling me that dusk gloves with hp +20, attack +5 and haste +3% is better than the aurore gloves with str +4, agi +4 and haste +2% even though when I trick attack somebody wearing the aurore gloves will give me more damage?

Yes. ______________________________

[Greatguardian]

oh, well I thought somebody did...

anyway, you're telling me that dusk gloves with hp +20, attack +5 and haste +3% is better than the aurore gloves with str +4, agi +4 and haste +2% even though when I trick attack somebody wearing the aurore gloves will give me more damage?

Yes, actually. Same thing for Turban vs beret.

[Sp1cyryan]

Yes, actually. Same thing for Turban vs beret.

Hey Snapshot > 1% haste. Don't make me link the snapshot page on wiki.

[Darka]

To Great Guardian... I'm not sure why it's not obvious why the Aurore is better for thf. Dex and Agi is best base stats for thf for acc, evasion, trick attack, etc. So... I'm surprised that you actually asked me to explain that.

I'll bite

It's 4DEX/AGI and 4Haste vs 5% Haste, or 6% should you acquire +2 Raider's.

I'll start with evasion, my naked THF can get a pretty high evade rate on any non NM mob, evasion rate caps at 80%. AGI also helps with Trick Attack, though you should be using +AGI in a Trick attack macro, not full time.
Same applies to the DEX, same enhancement but for Sneak attack only. It also adds +crit rate until dDEX is capped, which is likely to be so with cruor buffs and RR Atma. It also offers +2 accuracy. Even if you need +2 accuracy, it won't beat the loss of Haste from Turban.

Assuming Turban put you up to 25%, moving from 24% to 25% would be

25/75*100 is a 1.8% increase in your DPS.

So it's not specifically as good a choice as you think it to be, so it would be room for criticism.

oh, well I thought somebody did...

anyway, you're telling me that dusk gloves with hp +20, attack +5 and haste +3% is better than the aurore gloves with str +4, agi +4 and haste +2% even though when I trick attack somebody wearing the aurore gloves will give me more damage?

Yes, remember, each point of AGI raises your weapon's DMG by 1, but keep in mind Trick attack is a 1minute recast ability without merits, your regular DPS will by far contain the higher ratio of DMG. That said, you could just gear swap between the two to maximise.