Stop Player Bashing

[Naturebeckles]

Everyone makes mistakes, that's fine. I'm no different. I make mistakes all the time. That isn't what makes someone a bad player. You are a bad player because you intentionally go out of your way to do poorly, even though you know exactly what you need to do to improve.

I do not go intentionally go out of my way to do poorly. I'm just seriously done with people like you. I might as well be done with these forums. I bet you're so hardcore, your mom brings you a bedpan to shit in like in that South Park WoW episode.

[Naturebeckles]

I don't think you can handle criticism at all. Constructive or otherwise.

You're welcome to believe that. I've already told you I don't care what you think.

[Loir]

That's ok. I'm not here to be nice. I'm here to have fun, to educate those that know less than me, and hopefully learn a thing or two from those that know more than me.

Guess that change of M.O. will help in your last bastion of forum hope? Not making it sound negative, just missed reading some of your posts on other forums.

[rog]

I do not go intentionally go out of my way to do poorly. I'm just seriously done with people like you. I might as well be done with these forums. I bet you're so hardcore, your mom brings you a bedpan to shit in like in that South Park WoW episode.

You do though. Between not using haste gear, not using <stpt>, trying to balance a tp/ws set without swapping gear, etc, you really do.

I wish, my mom stays out of the basement

[rog]

Guess that change of M.O. will help in your last bastion of forum hope? Not making it sound negative, just missed reading some of your posts on other forums.

What? What change? That has always been my motivation for posting on both alla and bg.

[Naturebeckles]

You do though. Between not using haste gear, not using <stpt>, trying to balance a tp/ws set without swapping gear, etc, you really do.

I wish, my mom stays out of the basement

I actually use <stpt> when I'm using my collaborator/accomplice macros. My whm is only level 45 and haven't played it in months. I have no other reason to use <stpt>. I don't think there's anything wrong with trying to balance a tp/ws set up without swapping gear. I think Fondle is right. I think you guys really take the gear portion of this game way too seriously that you call people bad players over it.

[rog]

I actually use <stpt> when I'm using my collaborator/accomplice macros. My whm is only level 45 and haven't played it in months. I have no other reason to use <stpt>. I don't think there's anything wrong with trying to balance a tp/ws set up without swapping gear. I think Fondle is right. I think you guys really take the gear portion of this game way too seriously that you call people bad players over it.

What? You said you weren't aware of it earlier.

There is something wrong with trying to balance a tp+ws set. They require vastly different gear, and it is impossible to get a reasonable set that is good for both. The only way to do even decent at either, is to use different sets for both.

[JagerForrester]

Its like people using ace's/askar helm over w.turban back in the day.

W.Turban is 5% haste with +30 HP&MP while Ace's is 4% haste with +7ACC, +4STR, and -7EVA. The ACC+7 was a good reason to obtain that piece for the sacrifice of 1% of haste. What's the point of haste if you can't hit? More chances to hit? 1% wasn't worth the difference. Askar Helmet is 4% Haste with +4STR/DEX/VIT. I can consider that a poor choice of wearing with effort to obtain.

On a limited budget you should always upgrade things in order of cost efficiency. If you have a kraken club, and an nq ruby ring, you're doing it wrong. However, if you don't have much money, a ruby ring may be a good piece, depending on situation, etc.

If there is something better than what you have, that is easier/cheaper to get, than you are doingitrong. Example: trying to get a dalmatica solely for the refresh, even though pluviale is much easier to get.

Basically, you want to get reasonable NQ gear (which is incredibly cheap), and then upgrade it as you are able to, starting with whatever gets you the most for the least gil/time. At no point should you ever downgrade anything. As long as your base sets are good, this will always be acceptable.

Base sets should be pretty simple: tp should be haste > acc/da > atk > etc. Ws sets should take advantage of appropriate modifiers, and/or atk+acc, as appropriate.

You never know, they may have gotten lucky enough to own a Kraken Club as a casual player, lol. (Even though I know a party doing that BCNM wouldn't allow someone to keep such an expensive piece for one person unless the party made a deal or the current owner became untrustworthy.) I never considered Dalmatica as a very good item in my opinion, so I'll give you that. And loading up on WS modifiers should be a given too. But you brought up TP>ACC when I believe you should have enough ACC, like I was implying earlier in this post, where you hit 80-100% of the time, then load up on haste.

Sorry that I disagreed with some of the examples, but I am more understanding of what was meant when you said "intelligent" gear. Guess as long as teaching others how to properly gear themselves is understood, they are informed and can make their own decisions based on what is actually beneficial.

[Naturebeckles]

What? You said you weren't aware of it earlier.

There is something wrong with trying to balance a tp+ws set. They require vastly different gear, and it is impossible to get a reasonable set that is good for both. The only way to do even decent at either, is to use different sets for both.

I said I wasn't aware of <stal>. Go back and look if you don't believe me.

[rog]

You never know, they may have gotten lucky enough to own a Kraken Club as a casual player, lol.

Of course. However if they don't sell it, then they are doinitrong. Getting a drop, and then not selling it is exactly the same as buying it. In either case you have x gil less than you could have if you either didn't buy the item, or if you sold it after getting the drop.

But you brought up TP>ACC when I believe you should have enough ACC, like I was implying earlier in this post, where you hit 80-100% of the time, then load up on haste.

I was trying to give a general rule of thumb. If your acc is low, then yes, acc can in fact beat haste.