Stop Player Bashing

[Nepharite]

It's not up to you or anybody else to make people look bad just so others don't follow them. Why don't you let people make up their minds for themselves? I highly doubt most of you actually "care" about most people who play the game anyway. You're going to do what you do and they're going to do what they do. Like-minded people will stick together. You don't need to make the extra effort to make others look bad. People like me will just sit here and think you do it just to make yourself feel better. No thanks.

Some people want to be the best that they can be and look to forums like these for advice. If they get bad advice, then they aren't working towards what they want.

If your so into letting people decide what they want, then why do you care so much about this? You seem to be taking this rather personal, I haven't done any bashing against you.

Also I do a lot of random pickup stuff and I'd rather have the random people I do things with have a basic understanding of the game mechanics.

Getting false information is never ok, it skews what people will think on things.

[rog]

Whatever. I don't listen to egotistical pricks who think they know better than everybody else and who think it's their job to make others look bad.

Even when they actually do know better than you? Btw, weren't you going to bed 20 mins ago?

[Naturebeckles]

Some people want to be the best that they can be and look to forums like these for advice. If they get bad advice, then they aren't working towards what they want.
If your so into letting people decide what they want, then why do you care so much about this? You seem to be taking this rather personal, I haven't done any bashing against you.

Also I do a lot of random pickup stuff and I'd rather the random people I do things with have a basic understanding of the game mechanics.

Getting false information is never ok, it skews what people will think on things.

No.. you haven't bashed me. But you haven't read some of the other threads with me in them. lol

[JagerForrester]

This is not true. Elitist players don't want you to have the most uber of gear. They want you to have intelligent gear. You don't need to play 12 hours a day to get nice gear, especially now with Abyssea.

As long as you keep working towards good gear and you keep your gear choices that are available to you intelligent no one would have a problem.

It's when people delibrately gimp themselves because they've got some weird idea into their heads that there is a problem.

Can you give me an example of intelligent gear? Most elitist/hardcore players I see have gear that cost millions of gil or requires a well-strategic alliance.

[Naturebeckles]

Even when they actually do know better than you?

Yeah. Because if you're going to be a prick to me, you've automatically given me a reason to not respect you. If you don't show me respect and you belittle me, then I have no reason to listen to you, even if you're the most knowledgeable person on this earth about the game. That's why I like Great Guardian. He treats people with respect when he gives them advice.

[Nepharite]

Can you give me an example of intelligent gear? Most elitist/hardcore players I see have gear that cost millions of gil or requires a well-strategic alliance.

Its like people using ace's/askar helm over w.turban back in the day. Harder to get gear thats not as good.

[HFX7686]

Can you give me an example of intelligent gear? Most elitist/hardcore players I see have gear that cost millions of gil or requires a well-strategic alliance.

The elitist of the elite probably do have gear like that costs a lot of money. I'm not talking about their gear. I'm saying they're not going to make fun of a casual player if they've got average gear that is sensible and relatively up to date.

Also, I don't think that gear that comes from drops/events is that hard to get. Anyone can read the strategies that are all over the forums and wikis to figure out a decent plan to go after the nicer gear. You don't have to have it all right away if you're a casual player, you can do a little bit here and there (this is especially true with Abyssea but also applies to other places and times - Salvage was only 100 minutes long)

[rog]

Can you give me an example of intelligent gear? Most elitist/hardcore players I see have gear that cost millions of gil or requires a well-strategic alliance.

On a limited budget you should always upgrade things in order of cost efficiency. If you have a kraken club, and an nq ruby ring, you're doing it wrong. However, if you don't have much money, a ruby ring may be a good piece, depending on situation, etc.

If there is something better than what you have, that is easier/cheaper to get, than you are doingitrong. Example: trying to get a dalmatica solely for the refresh, even though pluviale is much easier to get.

Basically, you want to get reasonable NQ gear (which is incredibly cheap), and then upgrade it as you are able to, starting with whatever gets you the most for the least gil/time. At no point should you ever downgrade anything. As long as your base sets are good, this will always be acceptable.

Base sets should be pretty simple: tp should be haste > acc/da > atk > etc. Ws sets should take advantage of appropriate modifiers, and/or atk+acc, as appropriate.

[HFX7686]

Yeah. Because if you're going to be a prick to me, you've automatically given me a reason to not respect you. If you don't show me respect and you belittle me, then I have no reason to listen to you, even if you're the most knowledgeable person on this earth about the game. That's why I like Great Guardian. He treats people with respect when he gives them advice.

The first page or so of replies to you in any thread I've seen you post in have always been relatively polite, they simply disagree with the things you've said that are blatantly wrong. It's only your stubborn refusal to see that other people are right that is causing people to become frustrated with you and make fun of you.

[rog]

Yeah. Because if you're going to be a prick to me, you've automatically given me a reason to not respect you. If you don't show me respect and you belittle me, then I have no reason to listen to you, even if you're the most knowledgeable person on this earth about the game. That's why I like Great Guardian. He treats people with respect when he gives them advice.

You don't need to respect me, to listen to advice that could improve your gameplay.

If i offered you million dollars, would you refuse to take it because i was mean to you?

Btw, please don't let us keep you up all night. It's important to get a good nights sleep before class.